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>Dear Dennis:
>
>I vote not to bust them.
>
>Civil engineers practicing structural are the joke of the century. Poor 
>guys can do (by law) about everything that a SE can do, yet are not allowed 
>to compete fairly with SE.


I have experienced that they do compete by charging less.


>
>A person how obtains his SE license should market in the areas which he 
>could not have when he was a PE. e.g. Hospitals, bridges, schools etc. If 
>he is marketing a Type V residential project, he should not be offended by 
>a PE who is also marketing in the same area.
>
>I am currently a PE and will obtain my SE next year. I know my SE will not 
>make me a better engineer than I am. Also, the only reason I want to be an 
>SE is because I like to design high-rise structures.
>
>My recommendation, change title of a PE practicing structural, to 
>"Structural Engineer" and change the title of current SE to "Special 
>Structural Engineer". That way we can prevent other PE not practicing 
>structural from doing structural inspections. We saw a lot of that after 
>Northridge. Now, that is dangerous, and they should be busted.
>
>Shafat
>
>


If there is any changing to be done, keep the SE as it is.  Develop 2 CE
types.  One that does not do any structural work and the other (let's say a
CES) that is a civil who has passed a structural test and can practice
structural design.


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>From: 	Dennis McCroskey[SMTP:dennismc(--nospam--at)mcn.org]
>Sent: 	Sunday, January 07, 1996 1:28 AM
>To: 	seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org
>Subject: 	Re: Bust'm or not?
>
>2 weeks ago I introduced the question about "Bust'm or not?  So far 4
>responses have been received which have unanimously mplied they should be
>busted.  I vote to bust'm also.  The complaint forms are in my office and
>will be forwared to the state this week.
>
>My only difficulty is that both are friends.  One is a former employee that
>I trained, got his CE and now works in the area.  The other is someone who 
>I
>use as a consulting civil engineer occasionally and has been a friend for 
>18
>years.
>
>
>Dennis McCroskey
>SE&A
>
>
>
>
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