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- From: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org (Richard Lewis)
- Date: 30 Jul 1997 14:22:13 GMT
Bob Shilling wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 AnandNene(--nospam--at)aol.com wrote: > > > I am working on a deck design for a house in Berkeley. The deck is about 9 > > ft. above grade and is 10 ft. from the house back wall. I typically remove > > stucco, provide flashing and bolt new ledger to existing rim joist. I have > > seen some contractors attaching the deck ledger directly through the stucco. > > My client was advised by a contractor that removal of stucco is not > > necessary. Obviously this is cheaper solution, but I am not comfortable with > > this situation. I have advised my clients accordingly. > > > > Any thoughts, comments ?? > > First, you are the Engineer, the contractor who advised your client is > NOT. > > Second, if the stucco is left in place, the fasteners used to connect the > ledger to the rim joist will now have bending applied to them in addition > to shear and pullout. You can do calcs for this, but I still think it's a > bad detail. In either case you need to protect the (E) construction from > moisture. It seems that in your solution, you deal with this explicitly > with flashing, etc. The contractors solution does not deal with it. > > Bob > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . ........................... > Bob Shilling, SE Berkeley, CA shilling(--nospam--at)emf.net > I agree with Bob Shilling. While contractors have valuable skills in assessing construction costs, techniques and the ability to visualize in 3-D, typically they have a "12 month mentality". I would be surprised if your fee (there I go again!) is adequate on this type if project to worry about structural separation and waterproofing 3-5 years from now. I recommend you remove the stucco, place the ledger directly against the framing, build the deck, flash and counter-flash and repair the stucco. Done deal. Regards, Bill Allen --- Internet Message Header Follows --- Received: from server1.seaoc.org (bqe.com [22.214.171.124]) by host1.texramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA02011 for <rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org>; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:03:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from darius.concentric.net by server1.seaoc.org (NTList 3.02.10) id ka003728; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:52:56 -0800 Received: from cliff.cris.com (cliff.cris.com [126.96.36.199]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/02/12 3.22)) id NAA17764; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:50:13 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: <ballense(--nospam--at)concentric.net> Received: from BAllen (61027d0011la.concentric.net [188.8.131.52]) by cliff.cris.com (8.8.5) id NAA15066; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:50:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3304B3FB.7645(--nospam--at)concentric.net> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:50:35 -0800 From: Bill Allen <ballense(--nospam--at)concentric.net> Reply-To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Subject: Re: Deck structure attached through Stucco References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970214101600.7242C-100000(--nospam--at)emf.emf.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Error-To: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Loop: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Info: [SEAOC] Owner: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-POP3-Rcpt: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Sender: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Precedence: list X-ListMember: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org [seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org] __________________________________________________ Richard Lewis, P.E. Missionary TECH Team rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org The service mission like-minded Christian organizations may turn to for technical assistance and know-how.
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