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- From: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org (Richard Lewis)
- Date: 30 Jul 1997 17:23:49 GMT
> Well, some of you people have to face the fact that this is a FREE > MARKET ECONOMY!!!! (at least here in the United States). Communist > Countires are the only ones I know of that have a bunch of politians sit > around and decide how important everyone is to their society, and then > set their pay accordingly. There are some socialist countires that lean > in this direction with some professions. As far as Soviet Engineers go, > I have one as a neighbor now who came to this country a few years ago. > He was a Mechanical Engineer, highly trained and highly skilled at his > profession. How he cleans out peolpes clogged sewer pipes. He owns a > small roto-rooter type company. It is a family operation and he has > three trucks. It is very interesting talking to this man. While he > would like to be doing Engineering instead, he would never consider > going back to the USSR. Even back in the peak of their economy. He > makes a good living, and supports his stay at home wife and three > children well. He makes more money than I do. > So what!! I hope more and more people make more than I do. When they > save up all their moeny and get ready to build that new dream home, > maybe they will hire me to do the structural desgin of their home. > You people need to stop looking around at what everyone else is doing, > and how much money they are making and feeling sorry for yourselves, and > learn how to make the free market economy work for you. Don't sit > around and talk about the people in our industry that have failed, but > look at the ones who do succeed and learn from them. > I don't want any Government agency telling me what I should charge for > my services. I do not want any portion of my SEAOC dues to go to trying > to figure out how we can all be paid what we think we are worth. If you > want that then you should form a Union. That is their function. > I am sure Mr. Foley shops around for nearly everything he purchases. > There is a market for Mercedes Benz and Chevrolet. The consumer knows > there is a difference. Both Chevy and MB are successful, and their is a > market for both. And yes, there are and should be certain minimum > standards for any product that involves safety of the public, just as > there are for auto's and structural engineering. > People in this economy have an obligation to shop around for the best > price they can get for a product, and that includes Structural > Engineering. And there is nothing we can do one way or another about > that. All of those in our profession should provide a certain minimum > standard in the product we provide. And if we violate that, we should > have our license revoked. But then we need to decide if we are going to > sell Chevrolet's or Cadillac's. There is a market for both. But even > Cadillac has it competitors, and they must provide their high quality > product at a competative price. Here's the fallacy in your argument: Ours is a "Service-Oriented Industry" and it is not approriate to compare it with the sale of cars! I am not saying that I fully agree with a centralised fee system etc. but I do believe that your argument is a wee bit unfair. -Swaminathan Krishnan > At whatever level we decide to provide our services, there will be > competition, and the Client will get the best price he can for the > product. > We reward those in our economy who can produce a high quality product > and can deliver that high quailty product at the lowest price. > Learn the rules of the game, learn how to compete, and you will be > successful. > > Lynn Howard > --- Internet Message Header Follows --- Received: from server1.seaoc.org (bqe.com [126.96.36.199]) by host1.texramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA09795 for <rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org>; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 01:12:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailhost.worldnet.att.net by server1.seaoc.org (NTList 3.02.10) id ea005022; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:03:01 -0800 Received: from default ([188.8.131.52]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA24322 for <seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org>; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 07:01:01 +0000 From: "Swaminathan Krishnan" <SKRISHNAN(--nospam--at)worldnet.att.net> To: <seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org> Subject: Re: building code minimums for wood frame Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:49:22 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19970301070059.AAA24322@default> Reply-To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Error-To: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Loop: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Info: [SEAOC] Owner: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-POP3-Rcpt: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Sender: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Precedence: list X-ListMember: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org [seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org] __________________________________________________ Richard Lewis, P.E. Missionary TECH Team rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org The service mission like-minded Christian organizations may turn to for technical assistance and know-how.
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