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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:46:21 -0800
From: Jim Dane <jimdane(--nospam--at)>
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I am working on a tilt-up building project and have had several
discussions as to what is the current design thinking for roof and floor

The buildings are one story multi tenent light industrial with
diaphragms of approximately 70 ft. by 200 ft. and 22 ft. to top of
walls.  "Very typical".  With small buildings like this I still prefer
to use timber ledgers designed using hankinsons formula and seperate
HD's for wall ties.  I have also been using 300 plf. wall tie back force
for several years and am considering increasing this to 500 plf.

I have had several engineers tell me that I should be using steel angle
ledgers because it avoids the cross grain bending problem and the use of
hankinsons formula.  I have concerns about the use of ledgers unless
prying is considered at the ledger with regards to the angle or channel
legder thickness and also the tension loads on the bolts.  Seems that
the use of HD's would still be a good idea but this defeats the use of
the steel ledger.

Am I off in left field with an old way of thinking (An old xxxx that
need to move forward), or are timber ledgers with HD's still considered
acceptable.  I have used steel ledgers on large warehouse buildings
where the spans were large.

Would appreciate some other oppinions.

Thanks in advance.

Jim Dane, P.E.

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