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- From: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org (Richard Lewis)
- Date: 04 Aug 1997 15:45:30 GMT
rnester(--nospam--at)juno.com wrote: > If this situation weren't difficult enough, the current rage among corporations is design-build project delivery. Now we have the principle > player - the contractor - selecting architects, engineers, testing labs, > etc. > TO THE CONTRACTOR, ALL SE's APPEAR EQUIVALENT, DISTINGUISHABLE ONLY BY > COST. They know, of course, that the SE can be readily blamed for all > problems in design, construction, and performance, and at the same time, > the SE must be responsive to the contractor as the client. Fast, cheep, > and not one nickel's worth beyond the Building Codes is the order of the > day. Well, this is another subject I have been thinking about, the whole design-build issue. In our area, we find it becoming more and more popular all the time. I have a real problem when I am on a project and not representing the Owner's interest, but rather that of the Contractor. While performing Construction Administration services, there are many times that perhaps an Engineer may be tempted to let the Contractor get away with things that the Engineer considers to be poor quality, but may meet the minimum Code standards. During design, again the pressure from your client is to design the cheapest structure possible, throwing out all "Engineering judgement" issues. On the other hand, I have found that good Contractors will pick Engineers that they have worked with in the past that have a high quality set of construction documents, because they do not want problems on a project. They give the Owner a price before the project starts, and if there are any problems, they usually are not able to pass change orders on to the Owner. And if they do try, chances are the Owner will not hire the Contractor again. I much prefer to work on a design team that works on behalf of the Owner. However, if this design-build method continues to expand, I really think quality Contractor, who pick a team with quality Design professionals are the ones that will ulitmately be successful in this field. Lynn --- Internet Message Header Follows --- Received: from server1.seaoc.org (bqe.com [188.8.131.52]) by host1.texramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA29645 for <rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:37:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from beach.silcom.com by server1.seaoc.org (NTList 3.02.10) id qa009298; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:32:14 -0800 Received: from lhoward.ten.net by beach.silcom.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/SMI-4.1) id HAA06737; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:28:59 -0800 Message-ID: <33296F07.24FC(--nospam--at)silcom.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:30:15 -0800 From: Lynn Howard <lhoward(--nospam--at)silcom.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Subject: Re: Another Thought from Texas References: <250FC0828E4@eqe_irv_01.eqe.com> <19970313.225145.8167.0.rnester(--nospam--at)juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Error-To: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Loop: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Info: [SEAOC] Owner: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-POP3-Rcpt: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Sender: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Precedence: list X-ListMember: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org [seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org] __________________________________________________ Richard Lewis, P.E. Missionary TECH Team rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org The service mission like-minded Christian organizations may turn to for technical assistance and know-how.
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