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Thanks for the comments about Rand-Micas (Micas-Plus was the name in 1992).
However, before you read on, I should identify myself as the development
manager for Intergraph's latest structural package, FrameWorks Plus.  I hope
I don't get flamed for replying to this, but I'm a structural engineer who
learned how to program, not a programmer who learned structural engineering
(I'm convinced the latter cannot be done ;).

 Your comment about Intergraph "pretty much bail[ing] out of the CAD/CAM
systems market"  bothers me alot, although it is a common misconception
because of many reasons.   The decision not to "port" Micas-Plus to the PC
was reached mainly because of the stiff competition in the analytical world,
and the view that discussions like this would ALWAYS include newcomers who
would be the next best thing since... you know the story.  The appearance of
stable, do-it-all programs for under $500 seem to justify this decision.

Instead of porting the analysis and design engines of Micas-Plus, we
semi-ported all of the modeling and drawing features, then teamed with
popular analysis and design engines, GTStrudl (NT version out later this
month), and STAADIII.   We would gladly discuss adding others (any vendors
please email me).
The concept is very similar to the strengths of Micas-Plus, mainly a physical
member concept.   This allows designers to model structure by placing a
girder as one member, and then as intermediate framing members are placed,
the member is "split" when the analysis input file is generated.   This
allows MANY benefits, including accurate, yet customizable drawings, which
FrameWorks Plus also produces.

Think about it... when you "complete a project", how many times do you
re-enter basically the same data to complete the drawings?  It might be
something like this:  1.  Prelimnary sketches.

> Date:	97-03-22 21:28:10 EST
> From:	poly(--nospam--at) (Bill Polhemus)
> Reply-to:	seaoc(--nospam--at)
> To:	seaoc(--nospam--at)

> A few years ago, I had occasion to use, for a little bit, anyway, 
> RAND-MICAS, which was a version of the venerable MICAS software that was
> adapted to run under Intergraph's Microstation CAD/CAM package, which 
> at the time ran under the Intergraph flavor of UNIX (called "CLIX" I
> believe).  This software, even eight years ago, was awesome in its 
> power.  I saw a demonstration in 1992 of the package, still more 
> wonderful.

> Since Intergraph has pretty much bailed out of the CAD/CAM systems 
> market (well, at least to my knowledge), I wonder if they ever made 
> RAND-MICAS available on the P.C. platform?  Does anyone know?

> If the price were acceptable, that'd be an INCREDIBLE option.

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