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- From: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org (Richard Lewis)
- Date: 05 Aug 1997 17:56:53 GMT
In a message dated 97-03-31 02:33:07 EST, you write: << Subj: Opinions for List -power from the community Date: 97-03-31 02:33:07 EST From: wish(--nospam--at)cyberg8t.com (Dennis S. Wish PE) Reply-to: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org ('seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org') File: opinions.dat (4095 bytes) DL Time (28800 bps): < 1 minute Historically, I haven't placed too much of my confidence upon the powers-to-be in SEA to accomplish much at code level based upon the concerns of the community. Single Family Residential construction has not (at least until Northridge) been considered important enough to even add experience points for CE's planning to take the SE exam. Now due to the cost of damages incurred by Northridge and Loma Prieta, the Insurance lobbyist have forced the building industry to perk up an ear and take attention to the quality of residential construction. As Bill Allen suggested, if enough voices can be represented, then a letter should be drafted to the SEAOC board to urge action to improve legislation for residential construction. Conventional framing per the UBC is potentially dangerous in the hands of a non-professional. I have been an advocate for the removal of the conventional framing section of the code for the last four years or so. Unfortunately, my voice and those that support this position have fallen on deaf ears. As editor of SEAOC online, I have added threads of our Listservice discussion as a regular feature in the quarterly newsletter. Issues such as this are reprinted for two purposes. First, to urge engineers who are not connected to join our discussions by showing the community the level of professional discussions and peer assistance that we share with each other. Second, to let the SEAOC board (as well as other SEA chapters that subscribe to Online [almost 7,000 readers]) know what we are discussing and hope that they take in interest as to what is occurring "around" the community rather than just within it. If this turns out not to be sufficient, (possibly many of the board members are not computer literate enough to utilize an email or isp account) then I urge each of you to cut and paste these threads into individual letters. Mail them to your local SEA chapter and demand that committees be formed to address these issues. Bill is absolutely correct. There is power in numbers and if we can not get the attention of the SEAOC board and bring them to the list, then we need to bring the list to the board. Sincerely, Dennis S. Wish PE >> Dennis, I would suggest that these letters be addressed to other structural engineering associations in addition to SEAOC (SEAOSC, SEAONC, SEAOCC, SEAOSD), such as SEA of Washington, SEA of Hawaii, SEA of Nevada, etc. since they often have opinions on proposed code changes to the UBC. Without the support of these and other structural engineering organizations, it is very difficult to get code changes approved at the annual ICBO meeting. Trying to make code changes in the UBC becomes very political because of all the players involved as I know you are aware of. Once code changes are adopted by the UBC, then SEAOC may have a better chance to influence adoption of such changes by the local building juridictions in California. Respectfully, Michael Cochran --- Internet Message Header Follows --- Received: from server1.seaoc.org (bqe.com [18.104.22.168]) by host1.texramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA24993 for <rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 02:16:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from emout08.mx.aol.com by server1.seaoc.org (NTList 3.02.10) id ia014490; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:13:14 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA03348 for seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 03:10:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 03:10:31 -0500 (EST) From: BCASE1356(--nospam--at)aol.com Message-ID: <970331031030_955054580(--nospam--at)emout08.mail.aol.com> To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Subject: Re: Opinions for List -power from the community Reply-To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Error-To: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Loop: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Info: [SEAOC] Owner: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-POP3-Rcpt: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Sender: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Precedence: list X-ListMember: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org [seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org] __________________________________________________ Richard Lewis, P.E. Missionary TECH Team rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org The service mission like-minded Christian organizations may turn to for technical assistance and know-how.
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