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- Subject: Fwd: Re: Conventional Framing in UBC
- From: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org (Richard Lewis)
- Date: 06 Aug 1997 14:56:04 GMT
------ =_NextPart_000_01BC44FC.205F5FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Carl Wrote: Dennis: Complaining to the SEAOC Boards (and Committee Chairs) is like preaching = to the choir. Instead of targeting SEAOC and the others you list, might I suggest becoming involved in committee work and creatively helping to = make the needed changes.=20 Carl Sramek, S.E. : - )=20 [Dennis S. Wish PE] Carl, I can't disagree with you more on this = subject. First, I have been on committees - I was a member of the old = Hazardous Building Committee for almost three years before the UCBC = Chapter 1 Appendix 1 was published. I have a tremendous respect for each = and every engineer that participates with the committees. However, I = moved to the desert almost four years ago and the closes committee is = three hours away (six during rush hour).=20 I am in the process of writing an editorial for Online regarding this = issue. Originally, I thought to go in and blast my way through the board = of directors until I realized that this is not where the problem lies. = The problem lies in the lap of each and every member and non-member that = practices in the area of structural engineering.=20 Sure there are politics, cliques etc., that exist in the ranks of SEA, = but remember too, that this small community of active volunteers have = been attending and participating form many many years and therefore = deserve to step up into their positions. However, they must remember = that they are representative of the professional community, not the = local free thinker that walks in with a new original idea that they want = to shove down the throats of the rest of the community.=20 The engineering community now has a platform (a soap box per se) for = those of us that want to express a voice in the work of each committee = OR collectively express common concerns for the advancment or the = structural engineering community. The power to change laws and codes = still comes from within the community. It is now possible for more = engineers to be heard, to unite efforts and to present the consensus of = the majority of the "opinionated" community to our boards and committees = to delegate change. Gosh, when I sit back and see the power before us, I get all tingely.=20 Carl, we can make a difference. I received a copy of a letter from the = SEAOSC board today that demonstrates their acknowledgement of the sucess = of the Internet and of the its power to draw comments and unite = engineers from around the world. I believe that the boards and chairs = are ready to listen to what the community has to offer. I'll step down now and give someone else a chance. I have only one more = comment - demand it you will. The committess must begin assimilating = their work into the community via the internet, so that each and every = one of us knows and understands the directions that they are taking. = This is the only way that we help better the future advancement of our = codes. 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Wish PE" <wish(--nospam--at)cyberg8t.com> To: "'seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org'" <seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org> Subject: RE: Conventional Framing in UBC Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:15:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BC44FC.205F5FE0" Reply-To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Error-To: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Loop: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Info: [SEAOC] Owner: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-POP3-Rcpt: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Sender: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Precedence: list X-ListMember: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org [seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org] __________________________________________________ Richard Lewis, P.E. Missionary TECH Team rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org The service mission like-minded Christian organizations may turn to for technical assistance and know-how.
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