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- From: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org (Richard Lewis)
- Date: 07 Aug 1997 12:38:45 GMT
>I must add by 2 cents worth.. > >Terry: > >I disagree with your article. Your article says that US engineers should >not complain because they are better than Russian engineers. No Shafat, the article says that "engineers in this country have it pretty good" and that they should not complain. Period. Nowhere in the article does it ask the reader to measure his/her success. It does suggest that you go visit a foreign country for awhile. I realize not everyone is willing to spend the money to travel (my week-long trip cost a whopping $1,500.) that is why I thought I would share the experience. You'll just have to travel I guess to learn what you take for granted. A trip is no cure-all but the parallel point of the article illustrates how other societies fight tooth and nail every day INSTEAD OF complaining. I also realize that most anyone has it good compared to the Russians. Compared to the CEO of CH2M-Hill for example, no, many engineers perhaps have it pretty bad in terms of take-home pay. The difference however, is that the Russians don't have the opportunities. We do. Another thing many engineers take for granted. >BTW, average $60 K salary is way out-of-line. I am an employer in southern >California. Even here we don't pay that kind of salary to an average engineer. I'll have to admit, from a common sense standpoint, $60 K seems high. When I was in the business roughly ten years ago, $60 k was owner/principal money. The average seemed like $30 something. You'll have to consider that the majority of the CE News readership (not counting the pass-a-long reader) are owners and principals of private consulting engineering firms. Shafat, may I ask, just how much DO you pay your average engineers? And what is your belief of the average salary of civil/structural engineers in the U.S.? Perhaps CE News will conduct its own salary survey. Would everbody like that? Best Regards, Terry Stringer, PE CE News --- Internet Message Header Follows --- Received: from server1.seaoc.org (bqe.com [220.127.116.11]) by host1.texramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA05526 for <rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org>; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:06:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com by server1.seaoc.org (NTList 3.02.13) id ka018782; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:03:22 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-37kbm64.dialup.mindspring.com [18.104.22.168]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA04167 for <seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org>; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:59:07 -0400 (EDT) From: tgstring(--nospam--at)mindspring.com Message-Id: <22.214.171.124.19970418190218.36f72d7c(--nospam--at)pop.atl.mindspring.com> X-Sender: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:02:18 -0400 To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Subject: Re: FW: American Engineers have it good? Reply-To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Error-To: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Loop: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-Info: [SEAOC] Owner: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org X-POP3-Rcpt: seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org Precedence: list X-ListMember: rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org [seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org] __________________________________________________ Richard Lewis, P.E. Missionary TECH Team rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org The service mission like-minded Christian organizations may turn to for technical assistance and know-how.
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