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Not at all!! I am sure that his office does an excellent job. I am only
saying that if a comment is off base then it is by defintiton not relevant
to the work that is presented. I base my opinions not only upon my
experience but the input that I have recieved from many engineers in this
area.  My ONLY point is that there is little that we can do to protect
against off base, time consuming planchecks.  

I am sorry that you think that I need some realism.  I thought that I was
just providing some input on a topic that seems to be of intrest.  I do not
wish to offend anyone, so I am done sending my opinions to this list for a

Randy Vogelgesang

At 09:40 AM 8/20/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Are you implying that Lynn Howards' office does not get plan check
>corrections because that office produces poor plans? Get real.
>Although I know what you are talking about (it's hard to be critical of a
>blank sheet of paper), I don't totally buy your arguement. If your plans
>were indeed complete, thorough and accurate, there could be no criticism
>(sp?). If the plan checker is unqualified to check your work either report
>him to his supervisor or hold his hand. Your choice. If you routinely
>encounter this level of plan checking, build this time into your fee. If
>your fees get too high so that you are not competitive, get into another
>line of work. Alternatively, produce half a** plans so that you don't get
>these plan check corrections (as you claim).
>This is not a difficult issue. 
>Bill Allen
>> From: Randy Vogelgesang <rvogel(--nospam--at)>
>> To: seaoc(--nospam--at)
>> Date: Wednesday, August 20, 1997 8:32 AM
>> Of course doing a good job is proper, but when an unqualified person is
>> checking they don't have the technical foundation to reconize good from
>> I guess by inference that if one gets unreasonable requests they are
>doing a
>> bad job?  I have found that locally the engineers that do a poor job
>> encounter less plancheck problems because they simply give them less to
>look at.
>> Randy Vogelgesang