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Pardon me, Lew, but...are you on drugs?

Bill Allen

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> From: Lew Midlam <Lew.Midlam(--nospam--at)lcm.com>
> To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org
> Subject: Re: BORPELS and residential room additions
> Date: Friday, September 12, 1997 4:53 AM
> 
> Let BORPELS 'fry' the civil engineer, and in so doing, set a precedent
> that the design activities identified by the consultant are *required*
> in order to not be incompetent.  The result will be that *every* project
> will have a minimum fee of $5,000 and all the structural engineers in
> California will get rich.
> 
> Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
> 
> Lew Midlam, PE
> http://www.lcm.com
> 
> 
> ===============================
> HARRISENGR(--nospam--at)aol.com wrote:
> > 
> >      I have been asked by a civil engineer in another county to comment
on
> > his structural engineering for a 500 SQ. FT. room addition he calc'ed
in
> > 1987.
> >      There was a complaint ( but no failure type problem ) and BORPELS
asked
> > one of their technical consultants, who also does litigation work, to
> > comment. The expert SE said the civil engineer should have investigated
the
> > site, tested the concrete, obtained a soil report, as well as performed
> > structural observation , and since he did not the civil engineer is (
1997 )
> > incompetent and BORPELS has offered to settle by allowing the civil
engineer
> > to give up his license for 4 years.
> >      It was a calc and sketch job for  $450.00 and the were 37 pages of
calcs
> > and sketches.
> >      I have probably plan checked 3000 room additions, and these calcs
were
> > above average . I am shocked by what the BORPELS consultant recommends.
If i
> > did everything he is criticising i would have to charge $3500.00 plus
another
> > $2000.00 for a soil report and $750. for a concrete testing lab, all
for a
> > calc and sketch job on a 500 sq. ft. room addition!
> >       Am i in left field or do others calc and sketch without a soil
report (
> > use 1000psf ), not visiting the site ( assume it was built to code ) ,
and
> > forego structural observation on small room additions.
> >      I would like to know what others include as minimum services for a
> > residential room addition.
> > 
> >      Thanks in advance.
> > 
> >      Tom Harris , SE
> >      Thousand Oaks, CA
> >
> 
>