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Re: BORPELS and residential room additions

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I am a Structural Engineer practicing for a consulting engineering
company in Oklahoma.  This thread is interesting.  On many occassions, I
have found myself in the classical "damned if you do, damned if you
don't" situation. Many clients, particularly the relatively less well to
do ones, expect all encompassing solutions for little money. They expect
engineers like us to know answers to all their questions without doing
any calculations or any testing.  Unfortunately, there exist many poorly
and inadequately  designed structures and, the clients often use such
structures as a testimony to their claim that engineers always

Problems faced by competent, able and well-qualified engineers are
aggravated by the "engineers" at the opposite end of the spectrum, who
would accept anything the client wants.  

By the way, what is a BORPEL?

Bill Allen, S.E. @ ALLEN DESIGNS wrote:
> This is totally rediculous. It appears that the engineer applied the
> "standard of care" typical for this type of project. I think this incident
> has identified the enemy and the enemy is BORPELS. After all, it is BORPELS
> who makes us compete with architects, civil-civils with inadequate
> experience and other unlicensed persons thereby forcing us to to reduce our
> fees (and effort) to match those who don't have a clue of what is required
> to do a proper job.