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RE: Error in Phone Book - Structural Engineers

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Yeah, but, but -

Doctors and lawyers specialize, but do not necessarily have to be board
certified in their area of specialty.  As my old pal Clint Eastwood once
said, "A man's got to know his limitations".  We should not have to
totally rely on some state bureaucracy for professionalism and judgment.

If a structural engineer is competent in California, I would bet that he
would also be competent in Taiwan without a Taiwanese professional
engineering registration.  Could the reverse also be true?  I
acknowledge the need for engineering registration, but it can get out of
hand and just become a turf war.

Harold Sprague
Black & Veatch
From: Horning, Dick/CVO
To: 'seaoc(--nospam--at)'
Subject: RE: Error in Phone Book - Structural Engineers
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 10:21AM

Yeah, but --

     1) Most states I've heard of still require M.D and J.D. graduates
to still pass      a series of exams before they are turned loose as
doctors and lawyers.

	2) Surely you've heard of GIGO.  Shouldn't a responsible
	engineer be able to check the results of a computerized frame
	(such as one prepared by a newly graduated subordinate)?

> ----------
> From: 	Shafat Qazi[SMTP:seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)]
> Sent: 	Tuesday, September 30, 1997 12:00 AM
> To: 	seaoc(--nospam--at)
> Subject: 	Re: Error in Phone Book - Structural Engineers
> IMHO, they should stop issuing licenses. The requirement for
> practicing
> Structural Engineering should be a Degree from accredited university
> and
> three years experience. (Just like doctors). BORPELS should stop
> wasting
> time in preparing exams and rather focus on universities to ensure the
> highest level of education is being provided.
> How many of you remember how to calculate forces in a moment frame.
> Not
> Many I bet. Yet, most of us remember the UBC equation to calculate
> base
> shear. Which one is real engineering? Now think about that!
> Shafat