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Well, based on this weekend's survey of engineered design for single family
residences, I guess we in CA should count our blessings. Even though we have
an argument about who can do structural engineering, it appears that there
is more work here and that there is more opportunity for structural engineer
types to be self employed. I know a lot of engineers who are one man shops
and keep busy doing mostly single family residences.

Although it upsets me that architects can claim to do structural
engineering, most of the ones I know do not attempt it. It is such a
litigious environment here, most architects I know realize it would be
stupid to take on that liability. I am certain, however, there are pockets
in CA where this is not true, particularly in the smaller, less populated

Bill Allen

P.S. - I will work on my sense of humor :o)
-----Original Message-----
From: Caldwell, Stan <scaldwell(--nospam--at)>
To: 'seaoc(--nospam--at)' <seaoc(--nospam--at)>
Date: Monday, October 13, 1997 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: Another Error in Phone Book

>>From: CarlS95(--nospam--at)[SMTP:CarlS95(--nospam--at)]
>>Sent: Sunday, October 12, 1997 3:15 PM
>>To: seaoc(--nospam--at)
>>Subject: Re: Another Error in Phone Book
>>Stan Caldwell, from Texas, in response to Bill Allen, wrote:
>><< The references to Texas engineers getting "license exemptions" and
>>"raising the bar" in California were intended as humor, and nothing more.
>>Since it was my post that suggested automatic reciprocity for Texans,
>>you being presumptious to assume that I intended my statement as humor.
>> Haven't you figured out that here in California, there is no such thing
as a
>>sense of humor.  :-)  Having observed the high standards in the licensing
>>laws of Texas, and having observed a Texan or two in action, maybe I meant
>>Carl S.
>Perhaps I am being presumptuous (thank God we have spell checkers in
>Texas), but I do believe that your proposal was offered in jest.  In
>fact, if I recall correctly, you stated something to that effect at the
>end of your post.  Humor will eventually return to California when ya'll
>get over your identity crisis.  Until then, I'll try to remember to use
>smiley faces, as suggested by the SEAoC Good Humor Man (a.k.a. Bill
>Best Regards,
>Stan Caldwell, P.E.
>Dallas, Texas