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- Subject: Re: Online (Dennis Wish - Don't Read This)
- From: ErnieNSE(--nospam--at)aol.com
- Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 23:28:06 -0500 (EST)
If we cannot have Online in the mail, can we have it in the listserve or maybe a website? Actually, I didn't notice the missing Online in my Seosc Newsletter since I follow the listserve and........ well........who needs another newsletter to read. This is better and it is even interactive!!!!!. Whatever Dennis Wish wants to say (or even anybody) they can say it here, with no editor required. We just read and respond to topics we are interested in, anytime, anyday. I have learned a lot more from this listserve than anywhere else or from anybody, and it's all free. In fact, it's even better than some seminars that I have attended where we learn only the experience, judgement and opinion of one person, Anytime someone brings up a topic asking question or opinions from other engineers, we get a lot of responses. I think it is even possible to start a seminar here by just starting a topic, ask questions and hopefully, there will be enough experience engineers respond. For instance, it's been a long time since I did a tilt-up building. I remember that there was still a h/t limit on the wall and the panelized roofing consist of 2x's @ 24" oc, 4x, 6x, or GLP's @ 8'-0" oc, a series of cantilevered and simple span GLB's. Now, I heard that the cheapest roof system is the prefabricated,open web steel trusses and girders instead of wood purlins and GLB's. Walls have gotten thinner after the tilt-up wall test in the dessert as long as you just follow the formula in the UBC or ACI. I even heard from some Canadian Engineers involved in Design-Build Projects that they did a building with a wall with roof ledgers 35 ft. high and they used two layers of vertical reinforcements and picked the thinnest wall section that will work with the UBC and ACI formula. I didn't believe it at first but when I tried it using the formula, it works. I still would not use it on my job unless I get feedback from other engineers on possible and actual problems using such a thin wall even if it calcs out. Anyway, If I ever have a chance to do a tilt-up project now, I can either ask other engineers I know who have done tilt-ups lately, attend a seminar (if there is one available), or I can ask questions here at the listserve and hopefully get enough response to get me started. As long as other engineers are willing to share their experiences(good and bad), judgement and opinions, and as long as we use our judgement and discretion on whatever we read on the listserve, and we do our own research, we will all be OK. What I'm trying to say is that this listserve is Online Newsletter and MORE!!!!!! We can make it whatever we want, although there are limits and dangers, it is up to us. Ernie Natividad.
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