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* Structural Engineers Association of         *
* California. Email list Server.              *
* Frequently Asked Questions.                 *
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1. How do I send email to the list?
2. How do I unsubscribe from the list?
3. How do I request a digest. ( one email per day)?
4. How do I request files via email?
5. Any tips to lower the traffic on the list?
6. Why am I not allowed to post messages to the list server?
7. How do I update my email address on the list server.
8. How to get One email a day from the list server.
9. How do I switch back to non-digest mode?
10 Can I advertise my product/services on the list?
11 Can I post help wanted message to the list?
12 Can I post my resume to the list?
13 Can I get a directory of all the email addresses 
   subscribed the list?
14 Once I send an email to the list, is there a way to stop it?
15 Can I attach a file to my email?
16 What is the maximum permitted size of an email?
17 Where to report problems

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1. How do I send email to the list?

To send a message to all seaoc list members, use a 
message with the following form (the email address 
is case insensitive):

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       From: John Doe <johnd(--nospam--at)bqe.com>
         To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org
    Subject: PROBLEM WITH LOADING PRODUCT

    Can anybody help me unzip my file?
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2. How do I unsubscribe from the list?

To stop receiving messages from seaoc you will need
to send a message to the list manager called 
"admin(--nospam--at)seaoc.org" with a command to remove you from 
the list.  The list manager controls who belongs to 
the list.  For example:

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       From: John Doe <johnd(--nospam--at)bqe.com>
         To: admin(--nospam--at)seaoc.org
    Subject: <not needed>

    leave seaoc
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If you receive a message saying you are not a 
member but you are still getting messages, you
could be subscribed as a different email address.
In one of the errant messages, check for the 
"X-ListMember:" clause in the header of the 
message.  It will have the form:

    X-listMember: johnd(--nospam--at)mail.bqe.com [seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org]

which means that this message was from the list 
called "seaoc" and sent to the email address 
" johnd(--nospam--at)mail.bqe.com ".  You can now leave the list 
by sending the message:

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       From: John Doe <johnd(--nospam--at)bqe.com>
         To: admin(--nospam--at)seaoc.org
    Subject: <not needed>

    leave seaoc johnd(--nospam--at)mail.bqe.com
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3. How do I request a digest. ( one email per day)?

Instead of getting each message from the list 
separately, you may ask the list server to send 
you a compendium of all the messages that were
sent that day.  To do this, send a message to the
list server with the command "DIGEST".  For example:

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       From: John Doe <johnd(--nospam--at)bqe.com>
         To: admin(--nospam--at)seaoc.org
    Subject: <not needed>

    digest seaoc
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The list manager will send you a confirmation 
message back and every 24-hours you will receive 
a single email message with a contents and each 
message listed in it.


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4. How do I request files via email?

This list has a set of files associated with it. 
These files may contain new software releases, 
frequently asked questions etc.  The list server 
provides two commands to allow you to collect these file:
DIR and GET.  If you wish to obtain a list of all the 
files associated with this list, send the following 
message to the list manager:

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       From: John Doe <johnd(--nospam--at)bqe.com>
         To: admin(--nospam--at)seaoc.org
    Subject: <not needed>

    dir seaoc
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In return, you will get two messages.  One is a 
transaction report (telling you the command was 
completed) and the second will be titled directory 
for seaoc" and would have a contents like:

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    Directory for the list seaoc

  1 INML301C.ZIP  2535788 bytes
  2 INML302D.ZIP  2671264 bytes
  3 Drilled in anchors guide lines.doc  187653 bytes

    Directory for seaoc has 3 entries.
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Now you know the names of the files, you can 
request one to be sent to you using the GET command.
Taking the example of INML301C.ZIP,we could use the command:

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       From: John Doe <johnd(--nospam--at)bqe.com>
         To: admin(--nospam--at)seaoc.org
    Subject: <not needed>

  get seaoc inml301c.zip or
  get seaoc "Drilled in anchors guide lines.doc"

Notice the long file names that contain spaces 
have to be enclosed in quotes.
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Again, you will get two messages - the transaction 
report and a message containing the MIME encoded 
file (or the file if it is a text file).

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5. Any tips to lower the traffic on the list? 

1. Check the "To:" box before you send your email
   message. 
2. Use "Reply" button only when you want your reply
   to be distributed to everyone on the list. 
3. You can usually find the original sender of the 
   message in the header of your message. Try to 
   look for it. 
4. If you are offering information, please mention 
   in your mail that all requests to be made to you 
   directly. Include your email address at the bottom 
   of your message for convenience. 
5. If you rather get only one email a day, try to use 
   the Digest feature. You can get more help on Digest 
   and other features by sending an email to 
   admin(--nospam--at)seaoc.org and in the body of the message type 
   " help seaoc ".


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6. Why am I not allowed to post messages to the list server?

The list server will posts messages from subscribed 
members only. This keeps the unwanted email away. If 
you are subscribed and you can not post messages, 
there are two possibilities:

CASE 1: You are able to receive messages from the list, 
but can not post.

In this case, the email address in your outgoing email 
is different than your subscribed email address. In the 
headers of the email from the list, there is a field 
called X-ListMember: followed by an email address. That is 
the address you are subscribed as. Change settings in your 
email program such that your email address in the out going 
email matches your subscribed email address. If that is 
difficult to do, then unsubscribe the old address and 
subscribe the new address. You can do that by sending an 
email to the admin(--nospam--at)seaoc.org and in the body of the message type: 

leave seaoc your(--nospam--at)oldaddress.com
join seaoc

(Replace "your(--nospam--at)oldaddress.com" with the address that is 
currently subscribed)

CASE 2: You are not getting any email from the list 
server and you can not post any messages to the list.

In this case, all you need to do is join the list. Send 
email to admin(--nospam--at)seaoc.org and in the body of the message type:

join seaoc


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7. How do I update my email address on the list server.

>From your new email account, send an email to 
admin(--nospam--at)seaoc.org and in the body of the message type:

leave seaoc your(--nospam--at)oldaddress.com
join seaoc

(Replace "your(--nospam--at)oldaddress.com" with the old address that 
you like to remove from the list)


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8. How to get One email a day from the list server.

If you are already subscribed to the list, simply 
subscribe again. You account will then be switched 
to the "Digest" mode. All the email sent to the list 
will be collected for you and sent to you soon after 
midnight as a single email.

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9. How do I switch back to the non-digest mode?

If you are currently subscribed using the "Digest" 
mode, simply subscribe again to the list.
Your account will then be switched back to the 
normal mode.


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10. Can I advertise my product/services on the list?

NO. (Don't even think about it). However, if you 
like, you can advertise your product on our web site. 
The list server is monitored and unsolicited advertisement 
to the list will be blocked and the author will be removed 
from the list permanently.


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11. Can I post help wanted message to the list?

Yes. You can do that as far as the number of messages 
are limited. System administrator will warn you if you
post too many help wanted messages to the list.


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12. Can I post my resume to the list?

No. Posting resume or sending email soliciting 
employment/work is considered as advertising. Please 
do not even attempt to do so.


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13. Can I get a directory of all the email 
addresses subscribed the list?

No. Email addresses of all the members of this 
is list is not available to public. It is also not 
for sale. These addresses are secured and no one 
but the system administrator has access to them.


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14. Once I send an email to the list, is there 
    a way to stop it?

Under normal conditions the email get sent at the 
rate of few hundred a minute. It is very difficult 
to stop an email. However, you may want to contact 
the administrator at seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org and see 
if he can stop it.


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15. Can I attach a file to my email?

Yes. However it is not recommended. If you have a 
file you like to share with others, send the file
to the list administrator and request that the file
be made available via list directory.

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16. What is the maximum permitted size of an email?

Email messages sent to the list should not exceed 20K bytes
in size. This limitation also applies to attachments. Due to 
the heavy traffic on this list, the limitation is necessary.

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17. Where to report problems

Should you still have any problems or questions, please email
seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)seaoc.org who will be happy to help.

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