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I think it would be great to have Herbert Hoover around, because then we
wouldn't have to endure the embarrassment caused by the guy who is
currently working and playing in his office, and relationships would be
more "proper"! 

At least now, it is clear why the President is called the "Head of

Somebody recently remarked that "We have another Johnson in the White

When Bill Gates and Bill Clinton agreed yesterday to avoid improper O/S,
where they really thinking about the same thing?  Mr. Gates obviously
thinks that the only proper O/S is Windows, whereas Mr. Clinton
reportedly told an Arkansas State Trooper that O/S is sort of like a
shoe shine.

Stan Caldwell
Chuckling in Dallas   

>From: 	wish[SMTP:wish(--nospam--at)]
>Sent: 	Thursday, January 22, 1998 4:30 PM
>To: 	seaoc(--nospam--at)
>Subject: 	Re: Herb Was Right
>Wouldn't it be great to have him around to lobby for us in Congress?
>Dennis Wish PE
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Caldwell, Stan <scaldwell(--nospam--at)>
>To: 'SEAoC Listserv' <seaoc(--nospam--at)>
>Cc: Structural Group <StructuralGroup(--nospam--at)>
>Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 11:59 AM
>Subject: Herb Was Right
>>The SEAoC Listserv has hosted numerous threads discussing the
>>frustrations of our profession.  Darts have frequently been thrown at
>>other engineers, bottom-feeders, architects, contractors, developers,
>>manufacturers and materials suppliers, software developers, building
>>officials, lawmakers, government officials and agencies, code officials
>>and agencies, SEAoC, ASCE, CELSOC, BORPELS, anyone outside of
>>California, and the ever-popular "them" and "they".  I have thrown my
>>share of darts from time to time.  Recently, however, I came upon the
>>following quotation which helps to put structural engineering in a
>>proper perspective:
>>>"Ours is a great profession. There is the fascination of watching a
>>>of the imagination emerge through the aid of science to a plan on paper.
>>>it moves to realization in stone or metal or energy. Then it brings jobs
>>>homes to men. Then it elevates the standards of living and adds to the
>>>comforts of life. That is the engineer's high privilege.
>>>"The great liability of the engineer compared to ? other professions is
>>>his works are out in the open where all can see them. His acts, step by
>>>are in hard substance. He cannot bury his mistakes in the grave like
>>>He cannot argue them into thin air or blame the judge like the lawyers. He
>>>cannot, like the architects, cover his failures with trees and vines. He
>>>cannot, like the politicians, screen his shortcoming by blaming his
>>>and hoping that the people will forget.
>>"On the other hand, unlike the doctor, his is not a life among the weak.
>>> Unlike the soldier, destruction is not his purpose. Unlike the lawyer,
>>>quarrels are not his daily bread. To the engineer falls the job of
>>>the bare bones of science with life, comfort and hope. No doubt, as years
>>>by, people forget which engineer did it, even if they ever knew ? But the
>>>engineer himself looks back at the unending stream of goodness which flows
>>>from his successes with satisfaction that few professionals may know."
>>... Herbert C. Hoover, Engineer and 31st U.S. President
>>Isn't it a shame that we don't have a President with this sort of wisdom
>>and integrity today.  Oops, I guess that was yet another dart! {;^>
>>Stan R. Caldwell, P.E.
>>Dallas, Texas