I would only wish that SEA, NCSEA, CELSOC, ASCE
and all of the others would "Get Involved" with the thousands
of engineers on this list. Most of us are not "Southern
Calfornia or Northern California" We are from all around the world
and wish to "get involved". Yes, technically I am in Southern
California, but show me how easy it is to commute to committee meeting
150 miles away during business hours or shortly after. The reason for
this list was to fill a need that our membership dues never provided -
the ability for members to voice an opinion without having to get
involved on the limited terms established by committees in Los Angeles,
San Francisco, Sacramento or San Diego. Many of us live outside these
area's which creates a much greater hardship than it does for Rick, or
Rawn or other SEAOSC,NC,SD,CC members.
Let's learn a little etequete here on the list.
Arguments that start with "They always...", "They
never...." and rhetoric such as "don't complain unless you are
willing to get involved.." should be omitted from our vocabularies.
The fact is that we are involved in a very productive way - much more
productive that a committee which meets once a month. We meet every day
and hash these subjects out until we run out of steam or have reached
some understanding of what should be done. Once that is done, we sit
back frustrated because the people that can do something with our
conversations don't take the time or energy to listen or become involved
with the most unique and useful way of polling the community concensus.
Do we fall on deaf ears because individuals who
we have elected to represent us have a different opinion or is it that
we are not taken seriously or is it that we don't represent the average
opinions (which I would like proof of) or simply because they don't have
the time to learn the technology which will put them in touch with a
combined group of intellegent professionals that spend a great deal more
than 40 hours per week working to improve the knowledge of engineering
and trying to better our profession (breath)?
One thing that we are learning is: after three
years or more of participating on the list every day of the week and
often in the middle of the night, new participants appear with the same
arguments that put us back in square one and require us to bring that
person up to speed. Don't misunderstand, everyones opinions are equally
balanced here, but we do have an archive to research and learn from.
Then, based upon weighing the comments of many others, you will be able
to suggest something new and innovating.
Sorry! It's a sore issue for many of us that are
geographically impaired or don't have the ability or resources to attend
and participate in committees OR don't live in the state but are as much
entitled to an opinion about our common profession or simply don't care
to support a professional organization that has little to offer other
than lobbying power (although I would hope this list solves the last
WE ARE INVOLVED!
Dennis Wish PE