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Dennis, check the news! Clinton has admitted to having an affair with Gennifer Flowers!!

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From:	wish [SMTP:wish(--nospam--at)cwia.com]
Sent:	Thursday, January 29, 1998 9:22 AM
To:	seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org
Subject:	Re: Appropriateness

I don't disagree with your view, just your timing. The supposition is that
the accusations - all of them from Jennifer Flowers, to Paula Jones to
Monica Lewinsky are true, however, none have been proven to date. When and
if they are proven, the general consensus of this list will be right on
target and the public will have the right to make a moral judgement of their
elected official. However, as you know, every left and right wing journal
tablulates a polititions moral and ethical mistakes. Mother Jones Magazine
tracks Newt and the other Republicans as the New Republic tracks Clinton and
his ontarage.
Lets wait for the facts to come in. If they don't, then the allegations were
never strong enough or substatiated - it's as simple as that.
Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: T <vicpeng(--nospam--at)vtcg.com>
To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org <seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org>
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: Appropriateness


>".......can't tell a book by its cover........"?
>
>The decisions and actions of any individual are the calling cards of the
>nature of that person.  (".....actions speak louder....).  Over time the
>number of any given actions or derivatives thereof are the bubbles that the
>ocean deep vents like a fart, without warning or definition other than the
>wafting sweetness or putridness of the nature thus exposed.  It is not
>actions per se that should concern us, it is the nature that has given rise
>to those actions.  Is this not the process that our psychologists and
>psychiatrists use in the definition of our own characters and hence our
>impact on both ourselves and others?  If we judge that the actions of an
>elected person are inappropriate we should, with urgency, seek out the
>nature that produces these actions and judge on the fitness of that
>nature/character to the role that we have set that person.  Salem-type
>hysteria is not the scenario being advocated here!!
>
>The nature/character of a leader is important in the long run to the
actions
>of that leader will make.  His nature (despite the influence of advisors
>etc) will produce decisions that will be lauded, criticized, "good", or
>"bad".
>
>Any person in high office will produce significant societal ripples and the
>landscape of our human interaction should be cautiously surveyed before we
>venture into the minefield of state function.  It is too late afterwards to
>plead ignorance or mis-direction.
>
>Look at all leaders both public and private.  Their organizations are the
>shop front to their (and their supporters') natures.  Their organizations
>are the oases that will sustain you or kill you depending on the
well-spring
>source that is the leader.
>
>Look carefully to your leaders before they are in positions of power:  not
>with the eyes of the greedy but with the eyes of compassionate concern for
>the wellfare of your society.  Integrity and honesty are the hall marks of
>the wise.  It is the wise we wish to lead us, no?
>
>Thor Tandy
>
>
>
>
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