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Ok, participants. It's time for a vote. Is it time to draw and quarter Joe
Deppe and boycott EaglePoint software or to "encourage" EaglePoint to buy
advertisement at the SEAOC web site?

Bill Allen

> From: Bill Cain, S.E. <bcain(--nospam--at)>
> To: seaoc(--nospam--at)
> Subject: Re: Company Advertising
> Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 12:33 PM
> At 13:21 2/19/98 -0600, Joe Deppe wrote:
> >I have monitored this site for quite some time now and have offered
> >information and solutions to many inquiries without advertising any
> >products.  The response to the Visio inquiries included information
> >about Eagle Point as a reference point for more information, not to push
> >the product
> >
> >I appreciate that this is not a 24-hour bulletin board for advertising
> >and never intended to use it as one.  Other companies, or
> >representatives of their companies, plug their products on this same
> >site periodically and I see nothing wrong with it as long as we are
> >offering an answer or solution to a problem.  We, vendors as a whole,
> >are just trying to be of service in the best way possible...forgive our
> >seemingly forward approach.
> Joe Deppe:
> [Bill Cain]  I think your post indicates that you still don't get it. 
> SEAOC website is a far more appropriate place to push your product (and
> would help support the cost of the website and listserver).  I believe
> four rapid fire messages from you and your colleague (Brent Straka) in a
> very short time was quite excessive. 
> As Dennis Wish mentions, others have mentioned their product from time to
> time but it has almost always been in the context of explaining a feature
> that several list members have asked about (or else they got flamed just
> like you did ;<).  If you want to see how it is done in a classy manner
> look in the archives for some of the posts that Bruce Bates has done. 
> the tone and timing of his messages.  They are informative, professional
> and generally discuss a topic that goes beyond his product.  They also
> don't bombard the list with multiple "marketing" messages over a very
> time.  
> In general, it is better to respond to a person's question directly with
> product information (their email address is in the header) rather than
> "shotgun" the list with advertising.  My organization does buy a fair
> amount of structural software.  However, I, for one, would be very
> reluctant to do business with your organization if that "pushy-ness" is
> characteristic of your approach.  Regardless how good your product might
> be, I prefer to deal with people who act like professionals.  The value
> the information (beyond the value to you as a vendor) you provided in all
> four posts was marginal at best IMHO.  
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