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- Subject: RE: MISC- AutoCAD Conversion To Microstation
- From: "Dennis S. Wish" <wish(--nospam--at)cwia.com>
- Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 14:23:14 -0800
I remembered that there was a thread about the problems of converting AutoCad to Microstation. I recently evaluated a copy of Integraph Imagineer 2.0 and found that it can be used as a common platform for the coordination of Autocad and Microstation drawings. the first part has to do with Imagineer's relationship to both AutoCad and Microstation. The second part of this post has to do with placing MicroStation or AutoCAD information inot a drawing sheet. Also note that Imagineer supports AutoCad Paper and Model Space. This may be the answer that you have been looking for: Here are some instructions taken from the Help files of Imagineer: Imagineer Technical recognizes the formats of other drawing software, such as MicroStation and AutoCAD, and allows you to move information created by those applications into Imagineer Technical. You can then locate and establish relationships between the new information and elements on the drawing sheet. Opening AutoCAD and MicroStation Documents Before you bring an AutoCAD or MicroStation document into Imagineer Technical, you can change options for opening or inserting the document with the Options command on the Tools menu. The options appear on the Foreign Data tab of the Options dialog box. On the Foreign Data tab, you can access one of several dialog boxes to specify which template to attach to an AutoCAD or MicroStation document that you import into Imagineer Technical. You can then use the following methods to move AutoCAD (.DWG or .DXF) or MicroStation (.DGN) documents into Imagineer Technical: Cutting and pasting. Dragging and dropping. Inserting the information as an object. Opening the document directly. Cutting and Pasting You can select the information in the AutoCAD or MicroStation document and then cut or copy the information and paste it into Imagineer Technical with the Paste or Paste Special command. Dragging and Dropping You can select the information in the AutoCAD or MicroStation document and then drag and drop it into Imagineer Technical. In the Windows Explorer, select the AutoCAD or MicroStation document and then drag and drop it into Imagineer Technical. The document will be embedded in the drawing by default. Right before you drop the document, you can embed the document in Imagineer Technical by pressing the CTRL key. If you press CTRL + SHIFT, the document is linked. When you drop the document, handles appear that allow you to scale the object. The foreign document is placed into Imagineer Technical and behaves much like a symbol, allowing you to click to place it or move it around. Note You can set placement options by clicking the Options command on the Tools menu. Then, you can set the options you want on the Reference File tab of the Options dialog box. Inserting as an Object Inside Imagineer Technical, you can insert the entire foreign document with the Object command on the Insert menu. On the Object dialog box, you can set the option to link or embed the document. After you insert the object, Imagineer Technical places a SmartFrame border around the object, allowing you to crop it without altering the scale of the object. The geometry of the inserted document is recognized; you can use the relationship indicators to draw or create relationships between the geometry of the inserted object and other elements in the Imagineer Technical document. You can edit the inserted object by double-clicking it. Note The Object command inserts any OLE 2.0 enabled object, such as a Word or .AVI document, or CAD document, such as .DWG. The inserted object can then be edited by double-clicking it. Embedding or Linking AutoCAD or MicroStation Documents Depending on how you move the foreign information, you can choose to link or embed the foreign document in Imagineer Technical. When you link information from a .DGN or .DWG document to Imagineer Technical, the information is displayed in the .IGR document. When you change the original source document, the information in Imagineer Technical automatically updates. You can locate and establish relationships between elements in the Imagineer Technical document and elements in the linked object. Note If you establish relationships between elements in the Imagineer Technical document and a linked object, the relationships will be removed if you change the position of elements in the source document and then update the link in Imagineer Technical. You can also embed MicroStation or AutoCAD documents in an Imagineer Technical document. Embedding copies information and stores the information in Imagineer Technical. If you change the copied information, the original information does not change. Opening AutoCAD or MicroStation Documents Directly You can also use the Open command on the File menu to translate and open documents. You should not open a foreign document with the Open command, make changes, and then save the document back out to its original format. This process is not recommend because of the potential loss of element fidelity. Using MicroStation Fonts and Styles in an Imagineer Technical Document If you want to make line styles from MicroStation resource files available in an Imagineer Technical document, you can reference the styles with style resource documents. You can reference a MicroStation .RSC file from the active template or document by clicking the Styles Resources button on the Styles dialog box. When you attach an .RSC file from the current document or template, the styles in the resource document are added to the Style dropdown list on the active document's ribbon bar. If you attach a MicroStation .RSC file as a line style resource, the styles are not copied into the active document. The line styles remain in the .RSC file. If you send the drawing document to others, you should send a copy of the .RSC file along with the drawing. Fonts Imagineer Technical supports the system TrueType fonts delivered with Windows and supplies additional ANSI and ISO TrueType? engineering fonts. Imagineer Technical also supports MicroStation fonts. When you open a .DWG or .DGN document, Imagineer Technical provides a default mapping to determine which TrueType font will be assigned to which AutoCAD font. You can make changes to this mapping to define your own mapping. You can change the mapping with the Options command on the Tools menu. On the File Locations tab, you can set the paths to the font resources by double-clicking on Fonts 1, 2, and 3. Line Types Imagineer Technical provides ten different line types. The software also supports MicroStation line types. When you open or save a .DWG or .DGN document, a default linestyle mapping automatically determines which Imagineer Technical line type is assigned to which foreign line type. You can change the way the lines are mapped with the Options command on the Tools menu. On the Foreign Data tab, you can click the appropriate Options button. Line Widths Imagineer Technical provides a default set of line widths that correspond to standard metric pencil leads: .13, .18, .25, .35, .5, .7, 1.0, 1.4, and 2.0. When you open or save an AutoCAD document with the Save As command, a mapping determines what Imagineer Technical weight goes with what color in the foreign document; you can also define the threshold used to determine when polylines with width must be created. When you open a MicroStation document, a default mapping determines which Imagineer Technical line width will be assigned to go with which MicroStation weight. You can make changes to any of the default mappings to define your own mapping with the Options command on the Tools menu. On the Foreign Data tab, you can click the appropriate Options button. Colors AutoCAD documents have a fixed number of colors (8, 16, or 256 depending on the version). Since Imagineer Technical uses true color, the color table of the prototype document is used as the basis of the translation. Each color is matched to the closest available AutoCAD color. MicroStation maintains a fixed number of colors in a color table for each document. Since Imagineer Technical uses true color, the color table of the seed file is used as the basis of the translation. The default color table provided with Imagineer Technical defines the first 16 colors as standard and fills in the rest of the colors as they are needed. If the color table is full, then each color is matched to the closest MicroStation color. All colors in MicroStation are translated to true RGB values in Imagineer Technical. Layers Within an Imagineer Technical document, there are an unlimited number of layers per sheet. When translating foreign files into Imagineer Technical, the layers in AutoCAD or levels in MicroStation keep the same names. A layer mapping table is provided on the MicroStation Export Options dialog box, due to MicroStation's limit of 63 levels. Cells or Blocks When translating in a .DGN or .DWG document, the default is to translate cells or blocks into symbols. You can change this default with the Options command on the Tools menu so that cells or blocks are embedded. This translates cells and blocks into embedded symbols in Imagineer Technical. Saving Imagineer Technical as MicroStation or AutoCAD Documents You can save an Imagineer Technical document as an AutoCAD or MicroStation document. Before you do this, you can adjust the translation options with the Options command on the Tools menu. On the Foreign Data tab, you can click the appropriate Options button. When you save an Imagineer Technical document as a .DGN, .DWG, or .DXF document, the active sheet is saved. On the Options dialog box, you can map Imagineer Technical layers to MicroStation levels (1 ?63). All the remaining layers are placed on the last layer or level of the foreign document. The layer names are preserved, whether importing or exporting MicroStation documents. You do not have to map layers for AutoCAD documents; the layer names are imported or exported as named in the native document. If an Imagineer Technical layer has not been mapped, it is automatically placed on the next available layer or level in the foreign document until the last level or layer has been encountered. Symbols in Imagineer Technical are saved as shared cells in MicroStation (.DGN) documents. Symbols are saved as blocks in AutoCAD (.DWG) documents. Items Not Supported During Translations Tags and attributes are supported in that they are brought in as text during the import or export of foreign data. The following items are not supported: Attached raster images Linked or embedded objects (reference files) Elements Not Supported During Translations The following elements are not supported: MicroStation: Nested reference files beyond one level OLE links for exporting to foreign documents AutoCAD: Xline, Ray, and Mline Place AutoCAD or MicroStation Information onto the Drawing Sheet To place AutoCAD or MicroStation information onto the drawing sheet, you must first open Imagineer Technical and open the document that you want. You should set options for bringing the AutoCAD or MicroStation information into the document with the Options command on the Tools menu. The options are on the Foreign Data tab. To Drag and Drop a Document 1 Open the Windows Explorer and select the AutoCAD or MicroStation document that you want. 2 Drag and drop the document onto the drawing sheet in Imagineer Technical. To Insert a Document On the Insert menu, click the Object command and select the AutoCAD or MicroStation document that you want. To Drag and Drop Selected Elements 1 Open the AutoCAD or MicroStation document and select the elements that you want. 2 Drag and drop the selected elements onto the drawing sheet in Imagineer Technical. Note If you press CTRL while you drag a document, the symbol is embedded. If you press CTRL + SHIFT, the document is linked. To Copy and Paste Selected Elements 1 Open the AutoCAD or MicroStation document and select the elements that you want. 2 Copy the selected information. 3 In Imagineer Technical, on the Edit menu, click the Paste, Paste Special, or Copy command to copy the selected elements onto the drawing sheet. Tips You can also open a MicroStation or AutoCAD document directly with the Open command on the File menu. Once you place the MicroStation or AutoCAD information on the drawing sheet, you can locate elements and establish relationships between the new information and elements that you place using Imagineer Technical.
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