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Thanks for the comments, Jill. We have started a discussion of this. In
fact, Ernie Natividad had suggested a very similar approach, which I think
is very productive.
As you suggest, we would start with a very general catagory (or simply let
list members make recommendations). These would be left on the public list
until some concensus is reached or a the thread dies out. In any event, the
committee will evaluate the thread to see how it can be incorporated into
our work.
Please remember at this time we are only trying to develop standards from
which committees (both virtual and physical) can mutually use to exchange
information. Those interested in doing handeling the more specific
compilation of standards should join the Virtual Specifications Committee
(VSC). At this time, as Jill suggested, we are working together via email
(off this list).
Any suggestions or help anyone wishes to provide to develop useful standards
is encouraged.
standards universal. Therefore the more diverse our members are the better
chance we have of filtering our work down to something used by other
organizations or chapters.

Thanks again for your comments, they have been added to our list of idea's

Dennis Wish PE

|-----Original Message-----
|From: Jill T. Shuttleworth, P.E., S.E. [mailto:andeng(--nospam--at)]
|Sent: Monday, March 02, 1998 11:54 AM
|To: seaoc(--nospam--at)
|Subject: Re: SEAOC Committee Meetings
|It may be beneficial, once the committee is established for the
|committee business
|to be handled through private email addressed to all the committee
|members.  The
|topic may be put on the list server then people who wish to be part of the
|discussion could email the chair and get a list of all participants to send
|comments to.  Then once some consensus is reached the results could be
|posted on
|the list.
|Jill T. Shuttleworth, P.E., S.E.
|Sunnyside WA
|ErnieNSE wrote:
|> To everyone who want to respond to the thread on "Virtual Committees",
|> use the Subject: SEAOC Committee Meetings since it started this way. I'm
|> keepng track of all responses by printing it out and filing them in a
|> In the future, if anybody wants to know everthing about how the Virtual
|> Committee in the SEAOC Listserve started, all they have to do is access
|> Archive under this Subject and they will all be together.
|> I am going ahead with my proposal to start a Committee on the Listserve.
|> call it "VIRTUAL COMMITTEE". I'll declare the following as "FOUNDERS";
|> Wish, Ernie Natividad, Bill Allen, Rick Drake, Frank Lew and Bill Cain.
|> are the only people who are involved so far and hopefully we can add more
|> people later. Yes, I included Frank and Rick because I don't believe
|that they
|> don't want the committee, they just have concerns about it's success.
|> negative comments should be treated as constructive critisisms. Unless
|> don't want to, then, they can request to be excluded. Anyway, I still
|> them and encourage them as they will be the starting point and basis for
|> we can make this Virtual Committee work.
|> I've started a folder file of all post in this thread under Subject:
|> Committee Meetings. I have read all of them and I'm a little behind in
|> analyzing, organizing and documenting them. The first thing I'll do
|is prepare
|> a summary list of PROS and CONS based on what has been said so far.
|Then, I'll
|> prepare a "Proposed RULES and REGULATIONS" on MEMBERSHIP(whether all
|> members are automatic members or only those who are willing to
|participate and
|> accept the corresponding duties and responsibilities), OFFICERS(how do we
|> nominate, vote and install, or do we even need officers at all),
|> MEETINGS(Virtual meetings or online discusions on a specific topic within
|> set time frame without Robert's Rule, we can use Murphy's Law), GOALS,
|> OBJECTIVE, ETC. These should keep the thread going.
|> I'll keep track of all suggestions of "Let's do this" and "We should
|do that".
|> The first one is the Letter to SEAOSC. I'll prepare a "DRAFT LETTER"
|> notifiying SEAOSC of our plans. But, instead of being an official letter
|> the listserve(Frank commented that we need to get the whole listserve
|> it), I will sign it as my personal letter "Notifying" them of what's
going on
|> at the Listserve(as opposed to 'requesting them to acknowledge or
|approve' our
|> intent, since like Dennis said, we might not get a response from them).
Is is
|> not the person writing the letter who is important  but the content of
|> letter that matters. Once they find out that there is a large group of
|> virtually active, responsible and concerned group of people who are
|willing to
|> contribute to the betterment of the Structural Engineering Profession,
|> they will start to acknowlege our presence and hopefully support us.
|> Ernie Natividad