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As a structural engineer in Austalia making small bucks on a Scholarship
whilst stuying th dynamic failure of masonry it is interesting to watch the
discussion in California.

At 16:42 8/03/98 -0800, you wrote:
><FONT COLOR="#3333FF">At the risk of being categorized as "cavalier", one
>suggestion would be to let your family members share the AOL account while
>you use a "regular" ISP. Since you are a structural engineer making big
>bucks :o), the $20/month hit shouldn't be too painful. Besides, I believe
>having your own separate account for business purposes would qualify it
>as a business deduction. You don't claim your AOL account your family members
>are sharing as a tax deduction, do you Frank?</FONT><FONT
><P><FONT COLOR="#3333FF">Regards,</FONT>
><BR><FONT COLOR="#3333FF">Bill Allen</FONT>
><P>FLew98 wrote:
><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>In a message dated 98-03-07 20:16:44 EST, nmends(--nospam--at)
><P>> At some point, folks should be willing either to upgrade their software
><BR>> live with the consequences if they don't want to.&nbsp; ....We all
>know engineers
><BR>> pride themselves on never upgrading anything.&nbsp;&nbsp; ....If
>a guy wants to
><BR>> continue doing his laundry by beating it on a rock, fine, but he
><BR>> insist that the rest of us can't use washing machines because of
>it. :-)
><P>Nigel is a bit presumptious and arrogant.&nbsp; For AOL subscribers,
>it's not a
><BR>case of electing to use a better browser.&nbsp; In fact, AOL subscribers
>have a
><BR>choice of using the "native" AOL browser, which is a modified version
>of IE3,
><BR>or the full MS version of IE3.&nbsp; MSIE3 has more features and controls
>than the
><BR>AOL version, and is the one I normally run.&nbsp; So, when it comes
>to benefitting
><BR>from 'current' standards such as html, AOL users aren't missing out.&nbsp;
><BR>problem stems from the manner in which AOL has implemented its e-mail
>server -
><BR>it doesn't properly display html e-mail.&nbsp; I've been unsuccessful
>in trying to
><BR>configure Outlook Express to work with the AOL server.&nbsp; Calls
>to AOL technical
><BR>help, on those occasions I managed to get a live body on the line,
><BR>produced no solution.&nbsp; They said they don't know how to accomplish
>it, either.
><P>So, why do some folks who should know better still stay with AOL?&nbsp;
>In my case,
><BR>it's because four other family members like AOL for other reasons,
><BR>its proprietary content.&nbsp; Three of them access AOL from computers
>in other
><BR>cities.&nbsp; Because AOL allows an account to have five different
><BR>protected user IDs, those family members get a free ride instead of
><BR>$264 a year for their own accounts.&nbsp; The only restriction is that
>two IDs
><BR>can't be on-line simultaneously, but since we are scattered in different
><BR>zones, it's only an occasional and minor inconvenience.&nbsp; We have
>no problem
><BR>handling and viewing attachments in other formats such as .pdf, .jpg,
><BR>and .doc, so AOL's inability to display html e-mail properly is only
>a slight
><BR>irritant that is more than offset by the savings.
><P>I'm not a great AOLfan (and I don't own their stock) - it has other
>quirks and
><BR>limitations that may yet cause me to go to another ISP.&nbsp; However,
>given its 12
><BR>million customers (and possible 60 million user IDs) AOL's outdated
><BR>module arguably remains a de facto alternative 'standard'.&nbsp;&nbsp;
>Even on a
><BR>listserv like this one, with its computer literate subscribers, there
><BR>to be many AOL users.&nbsp; These folks, whatever their reasons for
>remaining with
><BR>AOL, have needs that shouldn't be cavalierly dismissed, as Nigel suggests.
><P>Dennis' recent post about Version 4, and how it can work with Outlook
><BR>is a bit premature the last time I checked.&nbsp; Even though AOL didn't
>call it a
><BR>beta version, that's what it is.&nbsp; It restricted distribution to
><BR>after which addtional download requests were denied.&nbsp; I learned
>about it after
><BR>the cutoff.
><P>Frank Lew, SE
><BR>Orinda, CA
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