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At 10:27 AM 3/13/98 +1100, you wrote:
>Your comments on the dinner last night are interesting and It was another
>famous American who gave the definitive reply to such people
>Come on lets see how good you Yanks are who said it and when and to whom?
        Gen. McAuliffe was known perhaps too well for that one-word reply to
the German commander who, during the Dec.1944 Battle of the Bulge in eastern
Belgium, invited the surrounded, snowbound McAuliffe in Bastogne to
surrender his 101st Airborne. Some years later as a guest at a dinner party
he was introduced to another guest by the awed and flustered hostess as
"General McNuts" 

        It's not as easy to use that reply to a plan checker, because you
both know there's no relieving army enroute when the weather breaks.

        Nor is it as easy to say Nuts to a perennial volunteer SEAOC
committee member who knows that his or her code-formulating committee has
complete autonomy under SEAOC Bylaws to represent SEAOC and all its members,
without review by the elected Board of Directors or anyone else. Tenure and
like-mindedness to one's predecessors' ways has a lot to do with being
influential in these committees. Out-of-step newcomers in due course drift
away unfulfilled.  

        Charles O. Greenlaw, SE     Sacramento CA