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RE: STL - ASTM Mill Specification for Fy=46KSI Tube Steel

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It appears as though it has changed. This was called to my attention by a
contractor since I specified a TS shape with Fy=42ksi (Fu=58 ksi) whereas
his steel supplier indicated that they are using ASTM A500 A46 steel. I
believe that the 42ksi spec was in my general notes which probably had not
been upgraded in the steel specification since the 8th edition (I only
upgraded my 8th edition in the last six months).

Dennis S. Wish PE

|-----Original Message-----
|From:	Brent Koch [mailto:brentk(--nospam--at)]
|Sent:	Thursday, March 19, 1998 6:33 PM
|To:	'seaoc(--nospam--at)'
|Subject:	RE: STL - ASTM Mill Specification for Fy=46KSI Tube Steel
|I've been using my 8th Edition AISC Manual (Red) which shows Fy = 42
|ksi (Fu = 58 ksi) for A500 Grade B cold formed tube.  Is the minimum
|yield stress for this material increased to 46 ksi in the 9th edition?
|Brent Koch, P.E.
|Quoting from "Designing With Structural Tubing" by Dr. Donald R. Sherman,
|Professor of Civil Engineering at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.
|"In the U.S. There is only one type that can be realistically obtained:
|cold-formed welded tubing.  The typical HSS product is an A500 Grade B
|with a yield strength of 46 kis and an ultimate strength of 58 ksi."
|Reprinted by "Modern Steel Construction" February 1997.
|Watch out for the 7% reduction on wall thickness recommended by HSS (Hollow
|Structural Sections).
|In my shareware program "StlShape" I have implemented the changes.  Check
|it out if you have the time.  Compare the results with your steel manual.
|It is lower!
|Sam Chang, SE
|URL for StlShape:  "";
|Can someone tell me quickly what the ASTM Spec number is for common A46
|Steel (TS6x6x1/4")? Is this ASTM A500?
|Dennis Wish PE

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