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Dennis, Steve,
How about a message board instead of the e-mail list that we currently use?
As participation on this list increases (especially with all of this
encouragement), it is likely that there will come a day where there are just
too many letters to sift through. A message board would enable people to
follow the threads that are of intrest.  Just a suggestion, I don't know how
practicle it would be to start one.  The format that I am thinking of would
be something similar to a this mutual fund board.
(http://www.fundsinteractive.com/wwwboard/)

Thanks, Randy Vogelgesang S.E.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis S. Wish <wish(--nospam--at)cwia.com>
To: seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org <seaoc(--nospam--at)seaoc.org>
Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: LURKERS UNITE, SLAY APATHY, AND CONQUER LISTSERVICE


>Greg, I have asked the Virtual Standards Committee (a self-proclaimed
>committee of about twelve listservice members - not yet recognized by any
>professional organization) to do just what you ask - establish a coding
>standard for messages.
>This was not well received in the past - you may notice some of us start
our
>messages with words that represents the subject (i.e., Wood, Steel etc.).
>I'll quote from my request of the committee:
>".......the listservice members have been resistant to coding of
>subject lines. Those who see the benefit to it have adopted our rudimentary
>system such as 'WOOD' for wood topics or in our case VSC for Virtual
>Standards Committee. How do we maintain a system of coding that is simple
>yet expandable. Remember that what we develop at the chapter level may
>someday be needed at the International level. How do we maintain
>compatibility without having to overhaul the system later."
>
>If you would like to help, please join our Virtual Standards Committee and
>help us work through these issues. We are trying to develop standards so
>that information can flow through the system between physical and virtual
>committee members without overloading. We want this system to expand for
use
>above chapter levels - to state, regional, national and international
>standards. One standard should be sought that meets all needs.
>
>Next problem - how do you enforce a standard?
>
>Dennis Wish PE
>
>"Science may have found a cure for most evils; but it has found no remedy
>for the worst of them all- the apathy of human beings."
>Helen Keller
>
>|-----Original Message-----
>|From: Steve Gregg [mailto:sgcengr(--nospam--at)bmi.net]
>|Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 9:53 PM
>|To: SEAOC(--nospam--at)seaoc.org
>|Subject: LURKERS UNITE, SLAY APATHY, AND CONQUER LISTSERVICE
>|
>|
>|This is to all you lurkers out there who (like me) have just a couple
hours
>|a week to devote to this listservice --- maybe enough time to download 900
>|messages and delete some of the funnies and rantings:
>|
>|    WE CANNOT RELY ON DENNIS AND BILL TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THIS
>|ONE!............  The 'regulars' on this list service commit the time
>|necessary to read 'every message' and I believe they enjoy it (that's
great
>|for them!).   But this gives them no urgency to set up a standardized
>format
>|for e'mail Subects to allow filtering.  I believe that they won't help the
>|rest of us --struggling to process this Amazon of e-mails, until we
>|collectively stand up and SCREAM about it!
>|
>|Now I'll admit, I'm not only a lurker but a technology straggler so please
>|don't scoff  --let's just ' put our heads under the hood and fix it'.  I'm
>|not really sure how to use it yet but on Microsoft's Outlook Express, the
>|Inbox Assistant allows incoming e'mails to be sorted to various folders,
or
>|deleted depending on the 'Rules' you've established.
>|
>|If  the first two or three words in the 'subject' for every post were
taken
>|from a standardized list that we all had agreed on, I think that each one
>of
>|us could read primarily the posts that interest us --- having filtered out
>|the rest.  That might save each of us, say three hours a week.  And for
>6000
>|users at say an average billable rate of $60/hr, that's,, uhhhh,  lemme
>|see...  $1,080,000 per week we could be pumping into the global village
>(or
>|56 megadollars per year).  I think the President's economists would hop up
>|and notice (they would know exactly what happened), and Bill would be
>|on-line shortly to congratulate us!
>|
>|no really Bill (Allen) and Dennis, we would be happy for any help you
could
>|give us.
>|
>|                                                    Steve Gregg
>|
>|'Let me splash happily in a creek,
>|instead of drown in the Amazon'
>|