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Dear Dennis,

There is only one true standard.

there are no standards.

John Nichols,

Quote for the day::

Who said   ::  After this is all over japanese will only be spoken in hell.

At 11:01 30/03/98 -0800, you wrote:
>There are simpler ways to adjust to a more complicated coding. You can
>create custom Signatures with codes already embedded. Another thought is
>that one of us can create a small visual basic drop-down list that sits on
>the desktop to find an appropriate category.
>I agree with Jill, but there are some shortcuts to take when having to
>content with more cryptic codes.
>PS: As I stated before, we are discussing coding of subject lines in a
>message titled "RE: lurkers unite" - how will we ever be able to easily
>locate this message in the archives? I left the subject so that you will
>know that I am responding.
>Dennis Wish PE
>La Quinta, California
>ICQ# 6110557
>"Silence is the virtue of fools."
>Francis Bacon
>|-----Original Message-----
>|From: Jill T. Shuttleworth, P.E., S.E. [mailto:andeng(--nospam--at)]
>|Sent: Monday, March 30, 1998 8:38 AM
>|To: seaoc(--nospam--at)
>|Subject: Re: lurkers unite
>|My opinion is that the only standard which would be followed is
>|one which is very
>|general so no-one would have to look it up to remember it.  For example:
>|Jill Shuttleworth
>|Sunnyside, WA
>|ErnieNSE wrote:
>|> Having standards for Subject: heading would be nice. But I think
>|it is not
>|> practical.
>|> Consider the subject I'm on, I read the post,  I'm interested in
>|it. I want to
>|> respond. So I just press reply button(on AOL) and type on. I
>|don't check what
>|> the subject is, if it is correct per standard or not, and if it is not
>|> correct, I don't want to spend time to correct it when I respond.
>|>  I look at this listserve as a group of people discussing mostly
>|> engineering topics which I am interested in. I turn it on
>|whenever I'm free or
>|> on a break and whatever topic I'm interested in I just join the
>|discussion. I
>|> don't have to ask permission to join or wait for my turn to
>|speak. I don't
>|> have to specify what subject of discussion I want to join or to
>|change the
>|> subject to a more appropriate one that conforms to standard. I
>|know most of us
>|> are like this because I followed some threads before and the
>|subject kept on
>|> changing because people talk about another topic while responding to one
>|> particular topic. Then when someone responds to this latest post
>|about the
>|> other topic, the subject heading is already wrong because they
>|just pressed
>|> the reply button.
>|> Being an informal discussion group/listserve, I think this is
>|how we'll keep
>|> on going. Unless .......somebody sets some RULES and order
>|everyone to obey or
>|> get kicked out. Is somebody out there brave enough to set the
>|RULE and risk
>|> being kicked out himself?  I'd be willing to follow the RULE if
>|there is one
>|> But I don't want to be the one to set it. And if there is a
>|RULE, then, it
>|> won't be an informal discussion group anymore. It will be just like a
>|> committee meeting where we have a Robert's Rule of Order (sort of).
>|> I know how hard it is to follow the threads or to keep up with all the
>|> discussions when there is really a lot. It would be nice to
>|filter it. But the
>|> only way to do this is to ask voluntary efforts from everybody
>|to follow topic
>|> standards, (if we do set up one and agree on it) then make sure
>|that nobody
>|> goes astray, and if it does happen, then it must be corrected by
>|the one who
>|> responds to the topic. Not really complicated but too cumbersome for me.
>|> So what do you guys think?
>|> BTW, if you wish to respond to this post by pressing the reply
>|button, check
>|> the "Subject: " first and see if it is correct. Change it if it
>|is wrong. And
>|> don't talk about another topic while you're responding to this.
>|"Send" this
>|> first, then choose another Subject(it must be the correct one)
>|then write on.
>|> Ernie Natividad