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I believe that the increase in 3 second gusts on the east coast is due 
to hurricane force winds.  The Gulf of Mexico, Florida and the eastern 
seaboard are subjected to hurricanes.  As you move inland the loads 
decrease.  [ASCE 7-95 fig 6-1] I am not familiar with the west coast 
but I would venture to guess that storms with winds of that magnitude 
are less common.  Seismic accelerations, on the other hand appear to 
be about ¼ of those on the California coast.  So I presume that it is 
more likely that seismic loads would control over wind on the west 
coast were the opposite is more likely on the east coast.

About 3 years ago a new building code was proposed for New York State 
which contained seismic provisions.  The governor rejected it due to 
the seismic provisions on the basis that it would increase 
construction costs and would not be business friendly.  I suppose 
bricks falling on your head is not business friendly either.  I will 
say though that wind loads are not neglected.

Perhaps in the case of a pole barn on Martha's Vineyard the structure 
is in an occupancy category and sized such that the designer did not 
feel wind loads were an important factor.  Most of my work is with the 
New York State Department of Corrections.  Due to security 
considerations most of the buildings have solid grouted CMU walls with 
bars in each core.  On low rise buildings that does not leave much 
consideration for lateral design.

From:  Dennis S. Wish[SMTP:wish(--nospam--at)]
Sent:  Wednesday, May 06, 1998 10:38 AM
To:  Seaoc@Seaoc. Org
Subject:  Question for East Coast Engineers

Over the last few years, I have spoken to engineers and architects in
various area's out east who design wood structures and have little or 
conception of lateral design and shearwalls. Granted, most of those I 
are from other professional newsgroups and not generally from the 
list, but I am confused since the threads on wind loads indicates 
loads in excess of most of those we find on the west coast (110-120 
mph 3
second loads).
When I ask about this, they simply state that they don't have to worry 
seismic in their part of the country.
One engineer designed post and beam structures in Martha's Vineyards 
seemed unaware that the structure would be affected by lateral 
What are the facts. Don't the engineers on the east coast consider 
design for wind or are am I confusing area's were Brick buildings are 
I'm curious since this would imply that there is a difference in 
related to load path and tying a structure together laterally.


Dennis S. Wish PE
La Quinta, California

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