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Does it sound posible to have a note a drawing in the spec to mention 
keeping forms free of water prior to pouring.  It seems it would not 
be too difficult to cover a wall form if a large rain event is 

From:  Mike Brown[SMTP:mike.brown(--nospam--at)]
Sent:  Monday, May 18, 1998 6:40 PM
To:  seaoc
Subject:  H2O at Bot of Forms

To all that are wondering what happened with the water at the bottom 
of the formed walls in the key way:

The concrete was poured with approximately 4 foot lifts.  The water in 
the key way was pushed out through the bottom of the forms and 
replaced with the concrete.

Once the form work was removed, some minor segregation (honeycombing) 
occurred at the bottom 1/4 inch of the wall for about 1/8 the wall 
length (wall length was approximately 110 feet).  The longest 
honeycomb was about 16 inches.  On the interior of the wall, very 
little honeycombing was noticed as compared to the exterior.  Overall, 
the bottom of the wall did not look any worse than what I have seen 
for concrete poured in dry conditions.

Only 1/4 of the total wall length has been poured.  The contractor has 
been notified to remove the remaining water prior to completing the 
form work construction.  The key way is a continuous 3" x 6" with a 
waterstop in the middle.  A pump has been used, but was only able to 
remove about 1/2 the water.  I have been assured that the remaining 
water will be removed.

Thank you to all who have responded.

Mike Brown, P.E.
Boise, ID
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