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Hopefully, there aren't any other issues that are "equally passionate."
I subscribe to this listserv for information, and go elsewhere for

I have never threatened to resign from this list.  There is no need to.
My delete button works just fine and, as you know, the filtering rules
in Outlook 98 are excellent!

Several individuals have sent me thank you notes for the Outlook 98 and
Windows 98 post.  I have no regrets.   I have never had any problem
straying from the sometimes narrow confines of structural subject
matter, and I am tolerant when others do so.  (Is it time to start
another Slick Willie thread yet?)  However, I do get frustrated when a
single subject dominates the listserv for a week or more, with only a
handful of active participants, offering mostly redundant and lengthy
arguments, with copies of other's previous arguments, until the subjects
are beaten to death.  That's why, in my opinion, Frank Lew and Fred
Turner make so much sense.

Now then, go out and have a wonderful day!

Stan R. Caldwell, P.E.
Your Friend in Dallas

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis S. Wish [mailto:wish(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 7:32 PM
To: seaoc(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: I Agree with Fred !

Stan, if there are equally passionate issues to raise on other
subjects, then present them. Any member that resigns from this list
they are inundated with threads on conventional framing are rather
minded to suggest that any on-going thread should be restricted because
may not agree with the silent majority viewpoint. The last thing we want
do is censure this list or it just becomes a good-old-boys club and
If you don't like some of the posts delete them, filter anything with my
name to the recycle bin or simply download a digest version of the list
pick what you want to read.
If you don't like the subject - ignore it rather than knocking those of
interested in the subject. The majority of those on this list are
involved daily with larger type projects. Nobody is stopping them or you
from taking time to discuss those issues.
Now go back to your post earlier today regarding Outlook 98 and Windows
98 -
where is the link to structural engineering in that? Did any of us
you not post that to the list because others use Unix or Mac's and are
interested in Windows?
Let's be a little more tolerant to those who do benefit from this

Dennis Wish PE

-----Original Message-----
From: Caldwell, Stan [mailto:scaldwell(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 2:34 PM
To: 'SEAoC Listserv'
Subject: I Agree with Fred !

Fred Turner wrote:

Are single family dwellings really the critical subject that we want to
fill up our email with?  It is not that important to me.

I couldn't have stated it any better.  I firmly believe that there is a
silent majority out there that design buildings in concrete and steel,
... buildings that greatly exceed 5,000 s.f.  Where are they?  After the
past few days, they are probably unsubscribing in droves!

Stan R. Caldwell, P.E.
Ice Hockey Fan
Dallas, Texas