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The board meets the first Wednesday of each month prior to the dinner meeting.
It is anticipated that minutes will be posted on the SEAOSC web page as soon as
the board members have reviewed and accepted them.  As time goes on, the length
of time it takes to review the minutes will decrease.  In regards to your
concerns about the list server, SEAOSC intends to keep operation of the list
service.  It may change names, but the same individuals will be involved.

Your input, as well as that of others, has been very helpful to the SEAOSC
board.  The concerns expressed and the thoughtful suggestions have allowed your
board to be more responsive to the members.  Again, as we move forward you will
find on the SEAOSC web page the things you are looking for.  For me, one of the
biggest accomplishments will be getting committee meeting minutes on the web so
all of you can review and comment to the committee chairs.  I think that this
type of activitiy will definately enhance the products of the committees.

Rick Ranous
Past-President, SEAOC delegate

Bill Allen, S.E. wrote:

> It is very encouraging that SEAOC has reacted in a positive way with regards
> to communications via the Internet. I guess I can feel more comfortable
> about sending in my check for this years dues :o). Some
> comments/suggestions:
> Although Shafat states that "all board members do have an email account
> now", either the links have not been updated or several of the e-mail
> addresses are the same, specifically "seaosc(--nospam--at)". What this implies
> is that Don Gilbert has to monitor the e-mail traffic, print out the
> messages and forward via hard copy to the addressee. The highest ranking
> member I found with their individual e-mail account was James Lai,
> president-elect (whom I am very anxious to see take office).
> As of right now, it is not really obvious when a new post (meeting minutes,
> etc.) has been posted at the website. Right now, I am dependent on Shafat
> posting a message to this listserv that there is new material at the
> website. It would be nice if the process were more automatic. I have my
> default web page set to the SEAOSC web site and it would be nice if there
> would be some sort of notification there (I've seen enough about the survey
> results and the convention for that matter).
> After reading the letter signed by Manny Morden and James Lai with regards
> to SEAOSC vs. SEAOC, I'm not exactly certain what the implications are of
> the conclusions made in the letter. I guess there has been a lot of
> discussion about ownership of the listserv, etc. The only issue that I am
> remotely familiar with is the struggle of control/power at the state or
> regional level. From what I've read both in the letter and on this listserv,
> most support a strong regional section and maintain a state office from
> which to "funnel" the regional effort. If that is a correct interpretation,
> I support it. With regards to "ownership" of the listserv, I believe it
> would be a gross injustice to ignore the time, effort and money put into the
> listserv by SEAOSC and the volunteer efforts of its members who made the
> website and this listserv possible. If members in other sections feel that
> they can do as good of a job and have a "right" to ownership, then I believe
> they should state their justifications.
> I guess the next step for me to push are to have committee documents handled
> in a similar way as the board of director meeting minutes. Also, a schedule
> of committee meetings would be nice. The "committee" section could use a
> little more function.
> I want to also take this opportunity to thank Manny Morden, James Lai,
> Shafat Qazi, Don Gilbert and anyone else who played a part not only in
> making SEAOC more responsive to the membership but also taking this
> organization one step closer to e-committees.
> Sincerely,
> Bill Allen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shafat Qazi [mailto:seaoc-ad(--nospam--at)]
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 2:58 PM
> To: seaoc(--nospam--at)
> Subject: June Board meeting minutes (SEAOSC)
> This is probably the first time in the history of SEAOSC that the board
> meeting minutes are available to the membership in less than three weeks
> from the actual meeting date.
> SEAOSC board met on Wednesday June 3, 1998. Don Gilbert was recording the
> minutes right there on his laptop. Within 48 hours, he sent the first draft
> of the minutes to all the board members via email. (BTW, all board members
> do have an email account now). The minutes went back and forth via email
> several times until today. The final agreed version of the board minutes
> was then sent to me to post on the web. Yes, you can read it at:
> Once you get to the home page, simply click on SEAOSC on the left menu bar.
> SEAOSC intends to post all of their future monthly board meeting minutes on
> the web.
> Thank you for your feed back.
> Shafat Qazi, P.E.
> Chair SEAOSC CAC and
> Newly elected SEAOSC Director.