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RE: Illinois SE vs. PE

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I have worked on projects in IL, but they were sealed by an SE.  As I understand it, you can't do anything structural without an IL SE.  No height, no occupancy, nada without an SE.  We were doing a dinky water pumping station and it had to have an SE seal on it.

Harold Sprague, PE
Krawinkler, Luth & Assoc.

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From:	Walkleypa(--nospam--at) [SMTP:Walkleypa(--nospam--at)]
Sent:	Thursday, July 23, 1998 1:17 PM
To:	seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject:	Re: Illinois  SE vs. PE

Would a kindly Illinois engineer please fill me in about what design elements
must be designed only by a SE, as in number of stories, earthquake zone and
the like. 
My calling  of the Illinios Depart. of Professional Regulation has only been
met with non- engineers in the legal department.  They faxed information to me
about what it takes to be a SE but no definitions of were a civil (PE) can
practice, unless absolutly no structural items may be designed by a civil,
retaining walls, sign footings and the like.


Jeff Fertich