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>Try doing a seismic design using ASD and the new AISC Seismic Provisions.
Try doing a seismic design of a nuke plant critical lift device without 
it. Try doing any crane design without it. Ultimate loads just don't 
govern. I still don't understand how it helps with building design ('I 
just like it better' doesn't count) but I'm resigned to that. I do wonder 
who's going to take it over and how it'll be administerd for things other 
than buildings.

Christopher Wright P.E.    |"They couldn't hit an elephant from
chrisw(--nospam--at)        | this distance"   (last words of Gen.
___________________________| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania 1864)