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Autocad maintains the following link on their home page, perhaps of
interest: news://  The User groups
occasionally list a copy of the software for sale (not cheap).  I started
out with a hardware-locked academic version (R10).  Once you get an
*upgradable* version it's not quite as expensive to stay current.  Dennis is
right on about software piracy--they take it VERY seriously.  The best
advice on this is to check your student bookstore--I got my first copy for
little more than a song at same while I was in college.
Kent Buzbee

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis S. Wish PE <wish(--nospam--at)>
To: seaint(--nospam--at) <seaint(--nospam--at)>
Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: AutoCad14

>Asking for software in this manner is not "sort of illegal" it is as
>as you can get!!!! It is inappropriate for you to request software from the
>members of this list since it violates the licensing agreement between the
>software developer and the end user. I mean to be direct about this since
>Autodesk, like most developers will try an prosecute known pirates of their
>software. Any suggestion that SEAint had been involved or may have been an
>instrument for you obtaining software in this manner could do harm to the
>future of this list. A percentage of our list members are software
>developers who are offended by this type of dialog.
>If you wish to obtain a student version or request a donation of software
>you should try the developer directly. Explain your needs and possibly they
>will help you obtain one of their compliant packages.
>I recommend you consider the purchase of AutoCad LT 97 since it is both
>Autocad R14 compatible and, with the exception of 3D drawing capabilities
>(it reads 3D drawings) and lack of an open architecture, would more than
>adequately suit the needs of a student.
>you might check out some of the more affordable cad packages either on the
>Internet or at your local software discount store.
>I understand your needs, but you must please refrain from requesting
>software from this or anyother Internet site. There is no way to obtain
>legal software in this manner unless the licensed user is wiling to
>his license to you along with all of his documents and disks. He will no
>longer be able to use the software as a registered user.
>There is, however, one legal way that I am aware of, but you would need to
>read the licensing agreement that accompanies the software. One copy of the
>software may be installed on more than one machine so long as it belongs to
>the original registered user and is not used by more than one person at a
>time - meaning that you can not operate the software at the same time as
>another user is working with it on another machine. Your situation would
>apply. The same is true of networked copies which are purchased based upon
>the number of nodes that the software will be used on. The first example
>intended for those how have employees using one registered copy and / or
>registered user who wishes to work at home and is allowed to copy the
>software to a second machine. Again, he may not run the software at the
>time on two machines.
>Good luck in your education and I hope you will suggest to other
>students that they might try the SEAint Listservice as they work into this
>Dennis S. Wish PE
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul McEntee [mailto:pmcentee(--nospam--at)]
>Sent: Sunday, August 30, 1998 10:46 PM
>To: seaint(--nospam--at)
>Subject: RE: AutoCad14
>When I was in school, you could purchase an academic version of Autocad for
>about 1/10th the cost of the professional version. The only difference
>between the student and professional versions is that the box that the
>student version comes in says not for professional use. Other than
>packaging, programs are identical. In my schools bookstore you could get a
>lot of other software for much reduced prices.
>Getting a copy of software is really sort of illegal, even if you're just
>using it to do homework on.  Not a good thing to do.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Boone [mailto:socr_stud(--nospam--at)]
>Sent: Sunday, August 30, 1998 9:33 PM
>To: seaint(--nospam--at)
>Subject: AutoCad14
>Have a software question.  Does anyone happen to have a copy of
>AutoCad14 that I could possibly get a copy of?  I am starting College in
>a couple of weeks and starting in the Architectural Engineering
>Department.  They run AutoCad14 in the labs and I was trying to get a
>copy of it so I can work on my own.  Thank you in advance.
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