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Of course, my post should have read:


Neither, otherwise I agree with you.  (To put it in the proper perspective 
for comparisons, I would -->not<-- want to have 20 percent of the members 
missing just as I would not want to have 20 percent of the connections 

I don't recall saying anything implying that connections are not important.  
They are vitally important as is the design of *any* structural member.  I 
stand by what I said:  "A 'good' detail for an inadequate load will have the 
same result as a bad detail for a proper load."  If the connection is 
underdesigned, it will fail no matter how well it is detailed ... as will a 
badly detailed connection which was supposedly designed for the loads it will 

A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
Tucson, Arizona

Bill Allen wrote:

. > Roger, which would you rather have:
. > A. a structure where the members are 20% overstressed, or
. > B. a structure missing 20% of its connections?
. > 
. > IMO, those who are inexperienced at providing a lateral load path from 
. > roof to foundation (shear collection and transfer) are more dangerous than
. > those who underestimate the design loads as well as codes that provide 
. > too low of a design load.
. > 
. > Regards,
. > Bill Allen
. >