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- From: "Dennis S. Wish PE" <wish(--nospam--at)cwia.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:28:24 -0700
This depends upon which side of the issue you are on. My opinion of intellegent debate is to express opinions based upon facts with the hopes that both sides might find a common solution to the differences. I have not participated in this discussion on the list since I believe, from reviewing every post, that the opinions stated have not been issues which either side is willing to be comprimised. Therefore it leads only to individual statements of opinion and does nothing to bring the two sides closer together. Rick Ranous post as well as those of Charles Greenlaw assume that the debate between each side of the issue can lead to a modicum of understanding that might bridge the gap that exists between the parties. I personally feel that these posts have been nothing but attacks at partisan issues. I also find that the opinions try to further associate a political party with a certain moral value - something I disagree with and believe to be a dangerous assumptio. With that said, I do not feel that this topic should continue on this list. Remember that I was one of the few who detested he idea of censurship when the issue was flooding the list with jokes. The issue was not whether the jokes were offensive or not, but rather than they dominated the list and were considered a nusance to large companies that distribute our posts on their network. With respect to these companies, Shafat requested that the non-engineering topics be taken off this list. I protested but ended up yielding to majority responses supporting Shafat's decision. Again I must respect the desire of the majority who responded to this thread and find it inappropriate for this list. This does not stop those who wish the debate to continue. Simply create an email group and let other know who may wish to join the private group. Respectfully Dennis Wish PE -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lewis [mailto:rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 6:47 AM To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org Cc: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org Subject: Re: Re: Political Issues seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org,Internet writes: Many of even the most tolerant people would be offended by this post, and yet he could turn around and use the same "free speech" argument that you have. In order to keep the list alive and healthy, I think we must in fact restrain ourselves to engineering issues. To do otherwise would probably mean the death of the list. Lynn Lynn, I think there is a big difference between posting your opinion on a subject and posting something that you know directly offends someone else. The kind of jokes you posted are aimed at cruelty to others, not expressing an opinion. I think you have stretched free speech too far and are trying to scare us into not expressing our opinion. Opinions and convictions are one thing, but cruel blasphemous material is another. We are adults and all should behave accordingly. __________________________________________________ Richard Lewis, P.E. Missionary TECH Team rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org The service mission like-minded Christian organizations may turn to for technical assistance and know-how.
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