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Dear Rodrigo

When my wife gets angry at me she threatens to go to school and become
a planchecker.

Ken Tarlow SE

---rodrigo lema <rodrigolema(--nospam--at)softhome.net> wrote:
>
> hi, i´m from argentina and i would appreciate if you could briefly
explain
> to me what  a "plan checker" is
> thanks
> rodrigo lema
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Dennis S. Wish PE <wish(--nospam--at)cwia.com>
> Para: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> Fecha: viernes 11 de septiembre de 1998 4:47
> Asunto: RE: Peer Review for projects on soverign land
> 
> 
> >Thanks Donn for your comments. I wasn't concerned about the design
code - I
> >intend to follow the '94 UBC or even the '97 where I feel it is
relevent.
> My
> >question is about the lack of plan checking and my desire to use
SEAOSC as
> a
> >peer review service. I believe, for a fee, certain members of
SEAOSC will
> >review a project and provide a peer report.
> >I would have more faith in a review performed by SEAOSC than I
would paying
> >a contract plan service like Wildan or Esgil. I don't mean to imply
that
> >Wildan or Esgil would not perform appropriately or professionally.
I *did*
> >mean to imply that a peer review by SEAOSC would be more credible
if we
> were
> >ever sued and brought to a tribal court. My reasoning is that the
review
> >would come from a professional organization which is known for
their active
> >participation in the creation of the codes used in the design of
these
> >strutures and as such would be testifying that the the design was
done in
> >accordance with the provision of the code.
> >On the other side, using SEAOSC as a peer review agency creates a
better
> >chance to find potential problems before they occur in construction.
> >Again, I need to preface that I don't have any less faith in plan
check
> >agencies, but I feel that SEAOSC peer review would provide a more
intensive
> >design review possibly by those with more understanding of the
intention of
> >the code.
> >
> >Respectfully
> >Dennis Wish PE
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: donn wooldridge [mailto:"cdonngo(--nospam--at)primenet.com"@primenet.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, September 10, 1998 6:09 PM
> >To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> >Subject: Re: Peer Review for projects on soverign land
> >
> >
> >Dennis S. Wish PE wrote:
> >>
> >> I figured this might get a few interested people:>)
> >> I have a potential project for a local indian tribe. Because the
work is
> >to
> >> be done on tribal land, there is no requirment for plan check or
> >compliance
> >> to local building codes. I have done this before, but only small
simple
> >> block buildings where I followed UBC and had no liability.
> >> My latest project is a very creative architectural piece which is
to be
> >used
> >> for a Visitor Center and Pedestrian Bridge across a shallow
arroyo. As
> >> before, there is no plan check cycle on this project.
> >>
> >> I am not comfortable with this even though I have confidence in the
> >ability
> >> of the members of the team I put together to design the
structures. I
> >> suggested to the architect that I would want to approach my local
SEA
> >> chapter (SEAOSC) and ask for a peer review council to review the
work
> >before
> >> I seal it. It seemed a reasonable request considering the potential
> >> liability issues.
> >>
> >> Although I have heard that SEAOSC offers the service, I have no
> experience
> >> with it and wanted to obtain the opinions of others. The
architect agrees
> >> with the idea but is hesitant to do any thing that might delay his
> >> accelerated design schedule. My design window is less than five
weeks and
> >we
> >> have not agreed upon a fee or have a signed contract as yet.
> >>
> >> I perfer using SEAOSC if the services are offered since the
credability
> of
> >> the reviews is important should this ever get litigated. I don't
believe
> >> that I would get the same level of review or credibility if I
were to
> >> suggest paying for a private plan check from a contract agency.
> >>
> >> I would appreciate opinions on this issue.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Dennis S. Wish PE
> >>
> >DENNIS:
> >
> >YOU "MUST" DESIGN ACCORDING TO SOME RECOGNIZABLE AND ACCEPTED CODE
EVEN
> >IF NOT DICTATED BY THE OWNER, AS IT MAY BECOME NECESSARY EVEN IN A
> >TRIBAL COURT.
> >
> >DONN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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