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RE: Plan check submittals and shop drawings

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I agree that there is an implied responsibility of the EOR for the entire
project, but I still would not seal a manufacturer's drawings.  I believe
that this would imply a degree of detail design responsibility that does not

Is the EOR sealing MEP bracing, rack systems, bar joists, etc?

I have done design work all over (including Los Angeles), but the EOR's seal
was never placed on component shop drawings that were designed, sealed and
submitted as part of a differed approval submittal.

Harold Sprague, P.E.
The Neenan Company

-----Original Message-----
From: Drew A. Norman, S.E. [mailto:DNormanSE(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 8:50 AM
To: SEAINT List Service
Subject: Re; Plan check submittals and shop drawings

....... Lastly, and perhaps to the surprise of anyone who reads this far, I
think Mr. Sprague is WRONG when he says he, "... would not seal the
manufacturer's drawings."  In the end, the EOR has primary responsibility to
the public and his client, and some building officials (e.g., DSA, OSHPD
and, as of recently, I believe LACBD) will require Mr. Hosseinzadeh's seal
and signature on ALL PARTS of the documents as a reflection of his
acceptance of that responsibility..........

Thanks for listening. 

Drew Norman, S.E.
Drew A. Norman and Associates