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I must be a dirty dog also. I have used details that do what I want from all
the engineering companies I have worked for without regard to whom I am
working for now. If the company I am currently working for has a standard
sheet then the "duplicated" end up on the nonstandard details. Is it wrong
or unethical to use details I developed in one office in a nother office
when I change jobs ? If it is the best solution it should be used. You may
need to redraw it on the new companies paper.  

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> From: 	ErnieNSE(--nospam--at)[SMTP:ErnieNSE(--nospam--at)]
> Sent: 	Tuesday, October 13, 1998 8:12 PM
> To: 	seaint(--nospam--at)
> Subject: 	Re: Duplication of others work.
> I'm not sure what kind of details cannot be duplicated and what can be
> considered typical that almost everybody uses.
> I've worked for five different engineering firms in the first 10 years of
> working and I've been working by myself the last ten years. I have
> compiled a
> lot of structural details( typical and special), foundation and framing
> plans,
> and structural notes and specifications during my early years of gaining
> experience. And I still keep a file of new and interesting details and
> other
> structural ideas even up to now whenever I see somebody else's plan. The
> typical details and structural notes I've seen from my previous employers
> and
> from countless other plans of other engineers are pretty much the same or
> very
> similar. Special details for a particular condition varies from engineer
> to
> engineer and I usually get ideas from these details and create my own.
> Some
> times, if a detail seems perfect to me that I cannot improve on it, use
> the
> same detail. I don't copy it and paste it on my plans. I redraw it. Even
> the
> way foundation and framing plans are drawn, I keep on changing my style if
> I
> see one that I feel is an improvement on my present style. 
> I guess I'm guilty of illegal duplication other's work. But how about the
> other engineers? If ten or more engineers uses the same details on their
> respective jobs, who copied from whom? Is it OK to copy some details but
> not
> all?
> I didn't feel guilty when I was using the same details and plans that I've
> seen used by other engineers(until now). I thought that these plans and
> details are typical or standard in the structural engineering industry and
> can
> be used by any engineer in his own work. What I feel was illegal or
> unethical
> is the indiscriminate duplication of plans and details without reviewing
> if it
> applies to their project, or modifying it to improve and conform with
> their
> project.
> I want to know if other engineers don't use a detail they have seen on
> another
> set of plans even if they see a perfect one for their job that they cannot
> think of any modification. Or if they see a foundation and framing plan
> presentation that they feel is very good and they want to use exactly the
> same
> presentation....
> Ernie Natividad