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I admit to some degree of ignorance on this subject--unlike many of you, I am an EMPLOYEE of a consulting firm, not working for myself, and leave much of the details of the contracts to the higher-ups.

That said, my impression has been that TxDOT considers that they have "purchased" the Plans, Specifications and Estimates from the Engineer, and now own them.

When you are doing work for TxDOT, you are doing things in more or less a standard way.  We reuse a great many of our details, of course.  So the subject of our being able to reuse our own product is moot.

Also, unlike in the commercial sector, TxDOT as a client is unique in that it has design capability.  In fact, as consultants we are simply part of the "privatization" of the work that they themselves have been doing for years.  Unlike a commercial developer for example, who may take plans commissioned by him, and rendered by one engineer on one project, and transfer them to another engineer working another project for his use, WE are typically taking TxDOT standards and utilizing them as a point of departure.

So it's a different situation.

I think that the motivation behind TxDOT's copyrighting the plans, is that they have had instances of people getting hold somehow of electronic versions of plans, and "ripping them up" to dig out the useful details, then selling them as part of CAD-based detailing packages.  At least, that's what I hear.

-----Original Message-----
From:	Roger Turk [SMTP:73527.1356(--nospam--at)]
Sent:	Tuesday, October 13, 1998 3:43 PM
To:	seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject:	RE: Duplication of others work.

Bill Polhemus wrote:

. > Yes, they are requiring it.
. > 
. > We are putting it on the plans now.  The universal copyright symbol with 
. > the year the drawing is produced, is placed next to the TxDOT logo on the
. > drawing title block.  Also, under the logo and the words "Texas 
. > Department of Transportation," the words "all rights reserved" appear.
. > 

Hm-m-m-m.  Texas DOT is making you transfer *ownership* of the drawings to 
them?  That means, IMO, that they can reuse any of *your* drawings or details 
without consulting you.

I guess the person with the biggest hammer wins.

A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
Tucson, Arizona