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RE: Design fee guidelines

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Be careful making this comparison Bill.  Yes, in the bridge game
maybe we get between 5 and 10%, sometimes even as high as 15% for
retrofit work, but the item your taking this percent of is all
structure.  On the building side of things I'm assuming that their
percent is calculated based on the cost of the structure including
all of the electrical, mechanical, finish work, ...

This brings up a question.  What portion of a buildings cost is
taken up by the structure?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Polhemus [mailto:polhemus(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 1:47 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Design fee guidelines

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jbotch(--nospam--at) [mailto:jbotch(--nospam--at)]
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 9:07 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)
> Subject: Re: Design fee guidelines
> My feeling is that 2% or 2.5% would be easier gained if it weren't for
> engineers in our field willing to sell very little for less,

In the Transportation game (where we do the bridges), we wouldn't think of
taking less than 6-7% for our part.

That's what you-all get for working for ******* architects!

This helps explain why, a few years ago, I received a job offer from an very
eminent structural engineering firm in Oklahoma City, and was astounded to
realize it was about 60% of the salary I was receiving at the time.

In fact, it was by far the lowest salary offer I'd ever received since
becoming a P.E.

You all really ought to be ashamed.