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RE: Min. masonry reinf

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While we are on the topic.  What is the prevailing thought on partial vs.
fully grouted walls?  One of the driving factors for engineers in California
is the lack of full scale seismic testing for partially grouted walls.  Is
this still true today?

My experience indicates the inertia is:

Fully grouted - California   

Partially grouted - Missouri, Kansas, Florida, Colorado, Wyoming, etc.

How about Texas, Oregon, Washington, Canada, New Zealand, etc.?  Vote your
state or country.  I had a very difficult time getting any reinforcing in
CMU walls in the UK.  Thailand reinforced the walls, but the QC on the units
was marginal to the point that they usually apply a cement plaster over the
whole wall to cover it up.

Harold Sprague
The Neenan Company

-----Original Message-----
From: La Count, Curt [mailto:Curt.LaCount(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 12:52 PM
To: 'seaint'
Subject: FW: Min. masonry reinf

As long as forces allow this amount of reinforcing, we use 2 -#6 in a bond
beam at 48" oc for horizontal reinforcing and 1-#6 in a grouted cell at 48"
oc center for vertical reinforcing.

Curt La Count
Jacobs Engineering
Portland, OR

In a message dated 12/2/98 4:21:41 PM EST, SHERMANWC(--nospam--at) writes:

<< I have a 12-inch thick concrete masonry wall to be reinforced per UBC's
 minimum reinforcing requirements for Seismic Zone 3 (i.e., total vert +
 reinf greater than 0.002 times gross area of wall).  Any recommendations on
 the most economical arrangement of vertical reinforced cells and horizontal
 bond beams (and/or horizontal joint reinforcement) to satisfy the code?