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Actually, just this weekend I was thinking about a similar analogy.  My
brother is a pilot.  He is currently in training as a new pilot with
American Eagle.  I am amazed with the rigorous training, testing and
simulations that he must go through.  7 weeks of training.  This is after a
number of years of flying and instructing himself.  Beyond knowing how to
fly the plane, he must also know how "everything" works(including the
turbines, electrical and mechanical systems, ect.)  on these complicated
aircraft.  It occurred to me that while my mistakes could affect numerous
people,  there is a lot more chance of the mistakes being picked up. (in my
office, by estimators/bidders, fabricators, and on site with contractors and
inspectors) Not that I count on this of coarse!  And if I am in a jam
figuring something out, I ask can some else, write to this list, or even
call it a day and deal with it tomorrow.  A pilot does not have these
options. Where as calling it a day could be calling it their last day.
Bruce C. Trobridge
Assistant Building Structural Engineer
NYS - Office of General Services

> ----------
> From: 	Charles Greenlaw[SMTP:cgreenlaw(--nospam--at)]
> Sent: 	Monday, February 01, 1999 11:29 PM
> To: 	seaint(--nospam--at)
> Subject: 	Re: Stamping Calculations
> >And don't forget that the surgeon is not alone in the operating room.
> There 
> >may be other doctors, at least an anesthesiologist, and there certainly
> are 
> >nurses, who can see if mistakes are being made.
> >
> >A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
> >Tucson, Arizona
> __________________
> No disagreement with the overall point contrasting structures with
> surgical
> patients, but the example excerpted above would not be persuasive support
> for it in Sacramento. 
> It seems there was an anesthesiologist named Miofsky in a prominent
> hospital
> here in the 1970's who, in the operating room during surgeries, took
> advantage of unconscious female patients while standing by the head of the
> operating table. The act was along the lines of what a certain party now
> claims does not meet the definition of sex for purposes of a certain
> lawsuit
> deposition. On numerous occasions, nurses actually saw what was going on.
> For many months they remained silent, during surgery and afterward, except
> among themselves. Evidence was found on the linen. Finally the story got
> out
> in the news and, despite hospital administrators' attempts at trivializing
> it, could not be quashed. "Dr.Miofsky" jokes soon abounded. The doctor
> ultimately lost his license and drew a jail sentence. The hospital had to
> pay off many of his patients in settlement of their lawsuits. 
> Charles O. Greenlaw, SE    Sacramento CA