To: "'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'" <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Subject: RE: OPEN LETTER TO SAC AND SEAOC MEMBERSHIP
From: "DEVERE, PETER P. (JSC-ES)" <peter.p.devere1(--nospam--at)jsc.nasa.gov>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:44:30 -0500
I am responding without the benefit of researching the SEAINT email
archive. From Farzad Naeims' memo this action by SAC and SEAOC is not
ethical at a minimum and smacks of a monopoly which should be addressed by
the California Court system. Watching this conflict play-out will
definitely be an education.
Peter De Vere
JSC, Houston, Texas
From: Shafat Qazi [ mailto:seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org]
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 6:26 PM
Subject: Fwd: OPEN LETTER TO SAC AND SEAOC MEMBERSHIP
>From: Farzad Naeim <FARZAD(--nospam--at)johnmartin.com>
>Subject: OPEN LETTER TO SAC AND SEAOC MEMBERSHIP
>Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:10:51 -0700
>X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9)
>April 25, 1999
>AN OPEN LETTER TO SAC JOINT VENTURE AND SEAOC MEMBERSHIP
>It was with great disappointment that we learned that SAC has decided to
>submit qualifications to develop schemes and provide structural engineering
>services for the seismic rehabilitation of an existing building belonging
>California State University at San Bernardino, California. We were further
>disappointed with SEAOC Board of Directors approval of such a move at their
>meeting of Saturday April 24th.
>We have been avid supporters of SAC from the very beginning. Our company
>technical staff have contributed valuable time and effort in trying to
>ensure the success of SAC efforts in finding a solution to the steel moment
>frame connection problem. If our company would not have substantially
>subsidized the time of our staff on SAC projects, the staff earnings would
>fall below the minimum wage.
>We have volunteered our resources, and hoped to be able to do so in the
>future, on the premise that SAC is an umbrella organization formed to
>conduct research and solve a particular problem: the behavior of steel
>moment frame buildings during earthquakes. The fact that this issue has not
>been put to rest after five years of effort by SAC is a clear indication
>that SAC cannot and should not afford spending any effort on any side
>projects like this. It seems that SAC, is afraid of finishing its tasks and
>is looking for ways to broaden its presence and justify its existence
>the issue it was formed to resolve. This is very unfortunate indeed.
>It was not our intention, nor we believe the intention of the structural
>engineering community at large, to assist in creation of a subsidized
>mega-consulting firm which would turn on them and compete with them on
>providing structural engineering services.
>In our opinion, the recent decision by SAC and SEAOC to enter the
>engineering services market as mentioned above, is a clear violation of the
>trust of structural engineering community and an unjustified expansion of
>the mandate of SAC as envisioned at the time of its formation.
>SEAOC, one of the three organizations making SAC, is the professional
>association of practicing structural engineers and responsible for
>protecting and enhancing our legitimate professional interests and rights.
>Therefore, it should not be a party to competitive efforts against its
>members and their firms for the evaluation and design services for any
>In our opinion, by supporting this ill-advised move by SAC, SEAOC has acted
>against the legitimate interests of its membership. One who bites the hands
>that feed him cannot expect those hands to be as forthcoming in the future.
>JOHN A. MARTIN & ASSOCIATES, INC.
>John A. Martin, Jr., S.E. Farzad Naeim, Ph.D., S.E.
>President Director of Research and Development
>Farzad Naeim, Ph.D., S.E.
>Director of Research and Development
>John A. Martin & Associates
>1212 S. Flower Street
>Los Angeles, CA 90015
>Phone: (213) 483-6490
>FAX: (213) 483-3084
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