To Et Al -
I have read most of the Threadlines re this subject, and, as an Ole Dude
would like to proffer the following:
I earned a Scholarship to Northwestern University, based on my records from
Evanston Township High School, in 1948.
Nine years later, after many, many different jobs I received a BS in Civil
from San Jose State. Some of those many, many jobs included being a 'flunky'
Engineering Aide on the Lexington Dam Project in Los Gatos, CA for Guy F.
Atkinson; an Estimator for a General Contractor in Santa Clara, CA ; and a
part-time employee of a Civil and Structural Firm in San Jose, CA. After
graduation from SJ State ( as it was then known ) I went to work for the
local Civil and Structural firm. After 2-1/2 years I received my RCE.
I then went to the first partner of said firm and asked why my anticipated
and/or projected salary would be so low [ year 1960 ] if I decided to stay
with the firm. His response was, " If you are after Money, go back into the
When I talked to the second partner he said, " Young man you have to decide
for yourself : Do you want to be an ENGINEER or not ." So, I left the firm
and went back into the Construction Industry, now as Chief Engineer and
Estimator for the old company. Had a Ball ! Four years later I decided to
set up my own Civil practice. with an emphasis in Structural design. After
my first two years into this new profession I called all of the SE's in my
area to ask," Why are we working for such little Fee ? Why not get together
and tell all of the Architects in the area that we will not work for a Fee
less that 1.50% ? " No one would listen and said that we would be price
fixing. Why do all of the banks have the same interest rates, are they price
It seems that the situation has not changed much in a span of 35 years ! It
is a Profession.