To: "'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'" <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Subject: RE: CE's and SE's on Philippine setting
From: "Cleofe, Antonio Ronaldo C." <gttwarc(--nospam--at)unocal.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:09:01 -0700
I agree with what you say about qualification-dependent pay for practicing
CE's but I believe professional performance should also be accounted for.
CE's who are working under some employer who has amassed lot of experience
say, 10 years, and maybe is a good manager also would get a lesser pay
compared to a process engineer of the same caliber. But I believe it is not
the money that really counts for a professional but a deeper sense of pride
based on what you believe is your contribution to the betterment of
humanity. Compensation is a blessing for having served somebody and maybe
the more we do our job right, safely, and towards what we said when we took
our oath way back when we started as CE's will bless us more with better
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American Structural Engineers-Guam [SMTP:aseguam(--nospam--at)ite.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 10:00 AM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: Re: CE's and SE's on Philippine setting
> this is to clarify a misconception that a lot of engineers have in the
> philippines regarding being CE or SE. current law regulating practice
> all CE to design and stamp drawings for all structures. however, the
> Professional Regulation Commission (PRC) only allows them to stamp it as
> only CE's with PRC recognition as SE's are allowed to stamp drawings under
> the title of SE. the SE recognition is given to CE's who have met the
> requirements. SE recognition process is 3-step. the CE's experience and
> qualification is first evaluated by ASEP (no, it is not true that all SE's
> are members of ASEP and not all members of ASEP has the SE recognition).
> evaluation is made based on a criteria approved by PRC. if a candidate
> the qualification, ASEP makes a recommendation. PRC then forwards this to
> PICE (the CE's professional organization) which in turn makes an
> based on PICE criteria. PICE then submits its own evaluation to PRC. the
> board makes a final determination, and awards the SE recognition to the
> qualified CE.
> most of the SE would be practicing on their own or are with the larger
> consulting firms. it makes sense since the compensation will be higher.
> cannot just compare salaries, you would need to look at the employer too.
> foreign companies doing business in the philippines will be in a position
> pay higher wages. a CE with about 10 years experience in structural design
> can get as much as $1000/month from foreign employers. specialized firms
> doing industrial work can also pay higher. in general local firms will pay
> lower but some what have profit-sharing schemes. needless to say, that
> compensation is always dependent on qualifications.
> Edward Y. C. Tan
> American Structural Engineers