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My associate tried to obtain reciprocity in Illinois for structural 
engineering and was denied because he only has the equivalent of a PE license 
in California. Here is the requirement of registration in CA.
8 Hours EIT
8 Hours CE (PE) 
16 Hours SE

According to your letter, Illinois only required
8 Hours EIT 
4 Hours SE to be qualified.

I don't understand why Illinois is so strict on reciprosity when they are not 
as strict on licensing requirments in their own states?

Could this simply be a bureaucratic hitch based on the lack of understanding 
by those who approve reciprocal licenses and have not understanding of the 
qualifications that each title represents?

Dennis S. Wish PE

In a message dated 5/23/99 5:59:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Rbengrguy(--nospam--at) writes:

<< Attention SEAINT members:
 Here's a story:  
 I am a licensed SE in the STATE of Illinois.  I took the Illinois SE exam to 
 obtain my registration.   HOWEVER, as a structural engineer I felt it was 
 necessary to obtain PE registration in ILLINOIS.   Several of my colleagues 
 only have SE licenses too!  
 For those of you who are not familar with ILLINOIS registration laws,  I 
 believe Illinois is unique as it maintains a totally distinct separation of 
 PE and SE registration.  WE have separate PE and SE registration laws and 
 separate boards.
 I applied to reciprocity (Comity) for  PE registration in New Jersey and had 
 NO problem in obtaining a PE  license.
 In January 1998 I applied for registration as a PE  to practice structural 
 engineering in Indiana.  Indiana does not  have separate requirements for 
 practice of structural engineering.
 I completed the necessary paperwork and had the State of Illinois send 
 verification of my Illinois registration.
 My application for PE was denied!!!!. 
  You see, Indiana law requires examination  in 8 hours of general 
 knowledge.  When I took the Illinois SE exam  the test included only  4 
 of general engineering knowledge.
 Unfortunately The State of Illinois did not state in my registration records 
 that the 4 hour general engineering exam was waived as I had taken the eight 
 hour "Enginering in Training"    (EIT) exam.  I eventually had a hearing 
 before the Indiana Board where I protested the decision to refuse my 
 of an Indiana PE  license.
 It took almost ONE YEAR  to get all the paper work cleared but I finally 
 received my Indiana PE registration as I met all of their examination 
 A Word of Warning for few   (most likely those in Illinois with only an SE ) 
 who  may have SE registration but not PE registation.  
 Isn't this an example to get uniform/standard  licensing, regisration  laws 
 across the country?
 Bob  Johnson,   SE