My associate tried to obtain reciprocity in Illinois for structural
engineering and was denied because he only has the equivalent of a PE license
in California. Here is the requirement of registration in CA.
8 Hours EIT
8 Hours CE (PE)
16 Hours SE
According to your letter, Illinois only required
8 Hours EIT
4 Hours SE to be qualified.
I don't understand why Illinois is so strict on reciprosity when they are not
as strict on licensing requirments in their own states?
Could this simply be a bureaucratic hitch based on the lack of understanding
by those who approve reciprocal licenses and have not understanding of the
qualifications that each title represents?
Dennis S. Wish PE
In a message dated 5/23/99 5:59:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
<< Attention SEAINT members:
Here's a story:
I am a licensed SE in the STATE of Illinois. I took the Illinois SE exam to
obtain my registration. HOWEVER, as a structural engineer I felt it was
necessary to obtain PE registration in ILLINOIS. Several of my colleagues
only have SE licenses too!
For those of you who are not familar with ILLINOIS registration laws, I
believe Illinois is unique as it maintains a totally distinct separation of
PE and SE registration. WE have separate PE and SE registration laws and
I applied to reciprocity (Comity) for PE registration in New Jersey and had
NO problem in obtaining a PE license.
In January 1998 I applied for registration as a PE to practice structural
engineering in Indiana. Indiana does not have separate requirements for
practice of structural engineering.
I completed the necessary paperwork and had the State of Illinois send
verification of my Illinois registration.
My application for PE was denied!!!!.
You see, Indiana law requires examination in 8 hours of general
knowledge. When I took the Illinois SE exam the test included only 4
of general engineering knowledge.
Unfortunately The State of Illinois did not state in my registration records
that the 4 hour general engineering exam was waived as I had taken the eight
hour "Enginering in Training" (EIT) exam. I eventually had a hearing
before the Indiana Board where I protested the decision to refuse my
of an Indiana PE license.
It took almost ONE YEAR to get all the paper work cleared but I finally
received my Indiana PE registration as I met all of their examination
A Word of Warning for few (most likely those in Illinois with only an SE )
who may have SE registration but not PE registation.
Isn't this an example to get uniform/standard licensing, regisration laws
across the country?
Bob Johnson, SE