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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  August 15, 1989


      FTC CHARGES NORTHERN CALIFORNIA STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS
                  WITH RESTRICTING COMPETITION;
               CONSENT AGREEMENT SETTLES CHARGES


     The Federal Trade Commission has charged that the Structural
Engineers Association of Northern California, Inc. (SEAONC)
illegally restrained competition among structural engineers in
Northern California.  Under a consent agreement announced today
for public comment, SEAONC agreed not to restrict its members
from soliciting business by truthful advertising; engaging in
price competition; and providing services to clients of other
engineers.

     SEAONC is a voluntary professional association of approx-
imately 1,000 structural engineers who comprise over 70% of the
Northern California licensed structural engineers and civil
engineers who perform structural engineering.

     According to a complaint accompanying the consent agreement,
SEAONC had enacted canons of ethics that:

     --   prohibited its members from self-laudatory advertising;

     --   required its members to charge "appropriate and ade-
          quate" fees for their work; and

     --   prohibited its members from providing services to the
          clients of other engineers.

     All of these actions, the complaint said, restrained compe-
tition unreasonably and injured consumers.

     SEAONC's principal business office is located in San Fran-
cisco, Calif.  The investigation was handled by the FTC's San
Francisco Regional Office.

     The consent agreement is scheduled to appear in the Federal
Register August 16.  It will be subject to public comment for 60
days, until October 16, after which the Commission will decide
whether to make it final.

     Comments should be addressed to the Office of the Secretary,
FTC, 6th St. and Pennsylvania Ave., N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580.

     A consent agreement is for settlement purposes only and does
not constitute admission of a law violation.  When the Commission
issues a consent order on a final basis, it carries the force of
law with respect to future actions.  Each violation of such an
order may result in a civil penalty of up to $10,000.

     Copies of the consent agreement, the complaint, and an
analysis of the agreement are available from the FTC's Public
Reference Branch, Room 130, 6th St. and Pennsylvania Ave., N.W.,
Washington, D.C. 20580; 202-326-2222; TTY 202-326-2502.

                              # # #

MEDIA CONTACT:      Susan Ticknor, Office of Public Affairs,
                    202-326-2181

STAFF CONTACT:      Jeffrey Klurfeld, San Francisco Regional
                    Office, 415-995-5220

(FTC File No. 881 0081)

(SEAONC)

Dennis,

How's this for a good reason not to discuss fees - Federal and State Law do
not allow it.  Visit the Federal Trade Commission Web Site at WWW.FTC.gov


Mark Oakford, P.E., oakfordm(--nospam--at)RSEC.com
RSE Consulting, Federal Way, WA  98093-1417
T 253-927-6169   F 253-838-3823