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Where does this say it is illegal to discuss fees?

Paul Feather
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From: Mark Oakford <oakfordm(--nospam--at)RSEC.com>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: Discussing Engineering Fee's


> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  August 15, 1989
>
>
>       FTC CHARGES NORTHERN CALIFORNIA STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS
>                   WITH RESTRICTING COMPETITION;
>                CONSENT AGREEMENT SETTLES CHARGES
>
>
>      The Federal Trade Commission has charged that the Structural
> Engineers Association of Northern California, Inc. (SEAONC)
> illegally restrained competition among structural engineers in
> Northern California.  Under a consent agreement announced today
> for public comment, SEAONC agreed not to restrict its members
> from soliciting business by truthful advertising; engaging in
> price competition; and providing services to clients of other
> engineers.
>
>      SEAONC is a voluntary professional association of approx-
> imately 1,000 structural engineers who comprise over 70% of the
> Northern California licensed structural engineers and civil
> engineers who perform structural engineering.
>
>      According to a complaint accompanying the consent agreement,
> SEAONC had enacted canons of ethics that:
>
>      --   prohibited its members from self-laudatory advertising;
>
>      --   required its members to charge "appropriate and ade-
>           quate" fees for their work; and
>
>      --   prohibited its members from providing services to the
>           clients of other engineers.
>
>      All of these actions, the complaint said, restrained compe-
> tition unreasonably and injured consumers.
>
>      SEAONC's principal business office is located in San Fran-
> cisco, Calif.  The investigation was handled by the FTC's San
> Francisco Regional Office.
>
>      The consent agreement is scheduled to appear in the Federal
> Register August 16.  It will be subject to public comment for 60
> days, until October 16, after which the Commission will decide
> whether to make it final.
>
>      Comments should be addressed to the Office of the Secretary,
> FTC, 6th St. and Pennsylvania Ave., N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580.
>
>      A consent agreement is for settlement purposes only and does
> not constitute admission of a law violation.  When the Commission
> issues a consent order on a final basis, it carries the force of
> law with respect to future actions.  Each violation of such an
> order may result in a civil penalty of up to $10,000.
>
>      Copies of the consent agreement, the complaint, and an
> analysis of the agreement are available from the FTC's Public
> Reference Branch, Room 130, 6th St. and Pennsylvania Ave., N.W.,
> Washington, D.C. 20580; 202-326-2222; TTY 202-326-2502.
>
>                               # # #
>
> MEDIA CONTACT:      Susan Ticknor, Office of Public Affairs,
>                     202-326-2181
>
> STAFF CONTACT:      Jeffrey Klurfeld, San Francisco Regional
>                     Office, 415-995-5220
>
> (FTC File No. 881 0081)
>
> (SEAONC)
>
> Dennis,
>
> How's this for a good reason not to discuss fees - Federal and State Law
do
> not allow it.  Visit the Federal Trade Commission Web Site at WWW.FTC.gov
>
>
> Mark Oakford, P.E., oakfordm(--nospam--at)RSEC.com
> RSE Consulting, Federal Way, WA  98093-1417
> T 253-927-6169   F 253-838-3823
>
>
>
>