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RE: Significant Error on Page 295, Seismological Research Letters , May/June 1999

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I hope you have a very happy birthday today with many happy returns.

Your posting today is another in a long line of thought provoking
contributions you have made in this forum and several others I've had the
opportunity to witness.  I think the profession has advanced significantly
because of your efforts to point out problems, inconsistencies and just
plain errors with developing standards and codes and with their use.  

Charles Greenlaw, in an earlier post,  cited Professor Hardy Cross' three
stages of an engineer's development.  Your "third stage" perspective on the
issues facing our profession is certainly appreciated by this writer.

Best wishes,
Bill Cain, SE
Oakland, CA

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	Sent:	Thursday, June 03, 1999 0:17 AM
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	Subject:	Significant Error on Page 295, Seismological
Research Letters, May/June 1999

	In my considered judgment, there is a significant error on Page 295
of the 
	Seismological Research Letters, May/June 1999, published by the
	Society of America.  This error pertains to the identification of
the seismic 
	hazards maps used in FEMA 273, "NEHRP Guidelines for the Seismic 
	Rehabilitation of Buildings."

	On page 295 of this publication in the first sentence in the right
	column is the following wording:  "The seismic maps that accompany
	Guidelines are available at"

	The seismic maps at this web site are the USGS Seismic Hazard Maps
and NOT 
	the maps that are to be used with the 1997 NEHRP, FEMA 273 and 310  
	provisions which are provided in a "Seismic Map Package" that
accompany these 
	three seismic codes and Guidelines. 

	This serious misinformation helps perpetuate a growing misunderstand
	could have serious consequences because the ground motion
	presented on the USGS Seismic Hazard Maps is different than the
ground motion 
	information presented on the paper format seismic hazard maps in the
	Map Package."

	Since the article discusses the role of the Degenkolb firm in the
	273 Project, if this firm reviews and believes I am correct, then it
is my 
	considered opinion that it is the Degenkolb firm's responsibility or
	responsibility of whomever prepared this article, to correct this
	using whatever national forum and format that is appropriate as soon
	possible because of the potential legal liability for this
misinformation and 
	its use. 

	I believe it is not sufficient just to notify the editor of  the 
	Seismological Research Letters because these letters are only
published every 
	two months and engineers could be using this misinformation right

	For a more complete  and excellent explanation of the difference in
	USGS and 1997 NEHRP, FEMA 273 and 310 seismic hazard maps read E. V.

	Leyendecker's January 12, 1999, SEAINT List Server email message
	Zones in Texas - Some USGS Comments" , which should be in the SEAINT


	If you have any questions, please contact Jon Heintz, Project
Engineer, for 
	the Degenkolb managed "ASCE/FEMA 273 Project" at his email address 
	jheintz(--nospam--at)  However, you should read E. V. Leyendecker's
	email posting first before contacting him.

	I guess someone has to pick out the fly specks out of the pepper.
This error 
	is a pretty big fly speck.

	Frank E. McClure    FEMCCLURE(--nospam--at)   June 3, 1999, My Birthday.

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